No you dont. Era is dead and TBC almost killed classic. Wotlk hype lasted only 1 month because they decided not to launch the game with RDF and all of the tourist that wanted to play “wotlk as they remember” left the game.
You can repeat the “we want only vanilla and tbc” or “classic its only vanilla - tbc - wotlk” or “people want vanilla-wotlk server only” but that is just not true at all.
Idk what is going to happen with cataclysm or MoP (no one knows) but one thing I know because the data is there, tbc died extremely quick and wotlk mostly the same.
The only hope that classic andys have now is SoD and it won’t last. It has like 6-7 more and it will die several times in between phases because the people only log on, raid log and log off.
Its obvious that they know Classic is on route to die and with MoP remix they will try to bait cata haters to play Retail and MAYBE play war within. On the meantime they will rush classic expansions.
Btw, you can quote me here in a few years, ir MoP remix is a success, Legion remix will be a reality, probably at the same time as “WoD Classic”.
Don’t know man… Blizzard have posted some images with their subs, and while on retail it had a decline with something like 3m? , when classic relaunched and after tbc and wotlk the subs were doubled up!
In the new graph you can see clearly how Vanilla Classic was enormous but during tbc and wotlk the subscribers went down, the only time it went up again was during SoD launch. And that is the last data we have.
Im sorry to burst tbc and wotlk andys bubble, but tbc classic and wotlk classic didn’t do very well… Tbc its was expected, but wotlk, im not going to say it was a flop, because its not, but its not even close to what anyone would expect from “the best expansion” and one of the reason were not adding RFD at launch. Wotlk launch had the most successful launch since vanilla but all of the tourist who wanted their wotlk experience didn’t had that and left.
All the anti-rdf crowd messed up wotlk launch and it wotlk classic will probably never happen again.
I’d say remix is a way of gauging player engagement on whether it’s worth doing MoP Classic, which it is. Actually kind of upset that they’re rushing Cata when we’ve been stuck with the snorefest that’s been Wrath for almost two years.
I think the reason you don’t see as big of a spike on that graph with the tbc launch is because of how crap shadowlands was, not that TBC “nearly killed WoW”. Barely anybody was playing Shadowlands, I say that as someone who was trying to push high M+ and there being barely any groups available. Meanwhile TBC seemed to be popping off? I was playing over multiple servers and it was always busy
If you see the graph, subs were falling and when TBC launched just kept falling, sure shadowlands was crap, but after TBC released it dropped even more.
Subs were falling almost to the worst BfA numbers and only started to rise a bit thanks to wotlk launch and then Dragonflight. After that, another nosedive until SoD.
If you compare Vanilla graph (During BfA) phase 1 vanilla was massive, then a big drop in phase 2 and 3 but then “The VARUS™” and subs were mostly balanced for a while. But you have TBC that don’t have any growth at all and dropped HARD.
I wouldn’t trust that numberless graph that blizzard showed recently in the GDC event because its pretty clear the graph was manipulated to suit blizz’s purpose and they were lying through their teeth. I think wow subscribers right now are about 2 million or less in both retail and classic, not more than that.
What a weird take. The mop remix they’re doing is retail class design and retail numbers with fully progressed world and everything quests etc exactly how retail is except you’re confined to the Pandaland and the raids are scaled.
SOD is built upon the original vanilla server code, retaining vanilla skills and talents while incorporating additional features. This isn’t a MOP SOD; instead, it’s a retail SOD with content primarily focused on MOP. It’s significantly different from the original MOP.
How can it be the closest authentic MoP experience? Without the original valley? Without the legendary cloack quest chain? Without Vojlin uprising? Without challenge mode? Without brawler’s guild?
No. Pandaria Remix will be the same leveling experience that Pandaria zones have today in retail but promoting it with new rewards so everyone funnel throught that expansion. But leveling today a Retail character in Pandaria zones will be exactly the same as in MOP Remix, except the exclusive rewards.
Cata is very bad addon its so bad hated cursed by players everywhere everytime never play this addon you need your time for things better to do but no play this trashbag.
OP never played MoP and it shows, just spreading missinformation like all other vanilla-wrath fanboys. They will all be gone soon enough since we are not getting wrath era thank god
