Sure, I never but you think it’s a good system when someone had to get 19 people for a chance an item with 7 day lockout?
Vault needs badluck protection.
In my 20+ years of playing this game, I’ve never cared about what gear I was wearing—only about what I could achieve with that gear. Similarly, a person who gets gear from world content will never be able to accomplish what I can with it. That’s the difference: you can give them everything, but they still won’t achieve anything significant with it.
The fact that someone obtains gear from three weeks of world content doesn’t diminish rewards from high-end Mythic raiding or high-end Mythic+. Gear alone is not a true measure of your success in the game. Achievements like Famed Slayer, Cutting Edge (CE), and Keystone Hero (KSH) are the real indicators of your skill and accomplishments in World of Warcraft.
If those people agree to join the raid under those rules then why is that a problem ?
It does not affect you at all if a streamer do this.
Which is why I suggest just getting rid of it and making rewards cosmetic. It will just always feel silly to me when you kill / do XYZ thing and already have the loot it drops because you just bought it at the earliest convenience.
Kind of agree with you to an extent. The vault system is extremely frustrating. My paladin weeks in a row only got gloves. One week decided I was done getting gloves so decided to unlock all 3 mythic dungeon slots and try my luck. Game gave me the middle finger and all 3 slots were gloves. Almost lost my mind.
I even wouldn’t mind if they kept the vault system but the tokens that they give you. Instead of trading for useless stuff like gold. You can convert tokens to generate an item piece for a specific slot of your choice.
You get 6 per week now ? So 12 tokens for 1 piece would be fair ?
But if you do not worry about any particular item, why are you worried if BiS is from crafting?
Why not remove the Vault, and just have Mythics guarantee a drop for you based on the level of that muthic dungeon conpleted? Theres nothing worse rhan doing a mythic dungeon to get nothing - same with the Vault, to max it out and wait all week to get zero is deflating.
I dont think people ahpuld get items from a boss/dungeon without having cleared that content first and at the lvl of said content.
Some are talking about increasing the dumgeon level to get specific gear… its already hard enough for DPS to get accepted for mythic du geoms that they have the gear and mythic score for wothout making that leap even greater.

You always get a 610, you sometimes get a map. You only get 616s in delves from maxed vault.
er no you don’t. I got a 603 champion piece the day I posted this. This was with de-spawning him down below the 50% threshold.

All BiS for everyone is explicitly from crafting.
I disagree. BiS should alway come from difficult content i.e dungeons , raids and/or rated pvp. Crafting should be there to craft intermediate gear with stats you desire and should be good enough as springboard into that content.
Both systems need to be viable otherwise there is no incentive to do any content if it can just be crafted.
With the current crafting system this already is happening. Someone who is not participating in difficult content will not see crafted items of ilvl636, or at least in no more than 1-2 slots, due to the drip-feeding system of crests. Some people don’t even have enough crests for full ilvl619 crafted items.

But if you do not worry about any particular item, why are you worried if BiS is from crafting?
Because that’s not 1 particular item, is it?
BiS encompasses a whole range of items; 1 for every slot.
And them all being from crafting only, would not be fun imo.

er no you don’t. I got a 603 champion piece the day I posted this. This was with de-spawning him down below the 50% threshold.
Was it a T8?
yes ofc matey.
I run a dual box. Which allows me to carry a brand level 80 straight into t8 delves.
3rd time in a row that i didnt get any upgrade (all items were which i already has 639).
I dont do mythic raid cos i dont have time for that, also not likely getting any loot vs 19 others.
They should make an option every week that which activity you want to fill your vault : raid, delves, m+ or mixed (like current version).
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