my paladin was my first character
Dropped it so many times because how weak it was
Nice to see some buffs
shaman (enh) buffs when? or just remove
Only 4% buff to dk frost, can blizzard balancing team quit smoking crack and start play the game or look at stats before do patch?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3A5OxTbJI0
Ret paladin is weak you say.
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Literally linking the guy who does Zero healer keys all the time is a top player playing with the best people doing a 20 with more then a little over geared characters.
Average ilvl in that group is 487.5ilvl 4 out of 5 have legendary axe.
If you are going to use that as reason for claiming ret is not weak you do not understand what is going on enough that your opnion should be taken seriously at all.
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Added a few additional PvP tuning changes with this week’s realm restarts:
Player vs. Player Changes
- Druid
- Bear Form now increases armor by 175% in PvP (was 220%).
- Shaman
- Elemental
- Armor reduced by 12.5% in PvP.
- Elemental
- Warlock
- Demon Skin increases armor by 22.5%/45% in PvP (was 45%/90%).
- Warrior
- Armored to the Teeth effectiveness increased by 45% in PvP.
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The dmg buffs for retri could also be adjusted for pvp. I dont believe anyone wants another retocalypse from the current buffs looking to go live. They could likewise still be adjusted for pvp if retri needs the buffs for pve.
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ret is trash, the damage buff wont help. It’s already trained to death under 12 sec, now even faster with armor nerf.
Still Missing decent Brewmaster, Prot Warr and Guardian Buffs to make them playable in High Keys without Aug.
You forgot Evoker:
[Tempered Scales]
Requires Evoker
Your dragon scales increase your armor by 75%.
Shouldn’t this be nerfed in PVP too?
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Guys we did it, they aknowledged us, WE EXIST WOOOOOOOO!!!
In all seriousness I really appreciate the buffs, not too op so it won’t be immediatly nerfed next change but a buff to help us nonetheless.
My only griep is lunar inspiration buff…we don’t take that, like… ever outside of pvp I guess.
Everything else is a really nice change, I do still suspect being lower of the ladder, but I remain positive that we might be a solid option in the near future.
So from a feral boi here, thank you blizzard 
Don’t know if you are a bit “special”
I said AOE is fine, ST wasn’t.
You could do this Videos with 5 DHs and or 5 BM hunter too easily.
doubt it.
5 DHs, yea that would be quite simple.
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Frost DK NEEDS A REWORK ! at least for pvp
0.1% of players in ALL ratings and brackets play frost dk
thats 0- rank1 … only 0.1% … not even a single 1%
how do they not see issue?
- Ret hits harder than a DK and has multiple tools and defensives and heals
can we get the ret treatment please for Frost DK
Please don’t be oblivious and buff DK armor! This class is getting demolished by physical damage already. Any class with physical damage is wiping the floor with you even without using their offensive cooldowns.
Oh no, imagine having to use your brain for once!
doubt it too 
Hunters have paper armor and a heal with a LONG cd.
So I don’t have much faith in it.
And using pets as a tank is not possible, as they die just looking at them
Is this the change you waited for?
Remember we talked about that in the latest class tuning. Will do more dmg numbers, but the play style is the same?
All in all, everybody like bigger numbers (specially when buffed) 
We are very low down in Raids, if this fixes the issues then I’m gonna be a happy bunny.
Can’t wait to give it a whirl on Wednesday.
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Lets hope it does bring you up!
Happy whirling tomorrow hehe!
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