I’m also in that camp but not needing massive WAs for raids will be a blessing and my PC will appreciate it for sure ![]()
Time will tell!!!
I’m also in that camp but not needing massive WAs for raids will be a blessing and my PC will appreciate it for sure ![]()
Time will tell!!!
More than anything, I hope you won’t need these new features. But that they’re optional only; at least until you do the very hightest of content difficulties.
Because I didn’t have an interest in them when they were addons, and I don’t have an interest in them when they’re intergrated into the game.
… and also changing color when agro changes in party, and may be when a mob is quest objetive out of combat.
by the way, this:
”The team found that progress on the UI engineering front was moving faster than expected… in terms of implementing some of the replacements we knew we’d need.”
it is a joke, dont ?, dont?.
Existing default UI does that already.
It also changes color and adds small icon on player frame if player has debuff.
It seems that some people play with addons for so long that they are not even aware how standard UI works and what does.
Nameplate dancing like crazy, you meant ? ![]()
I need more popcorn for this thread.
I continue to support Blizzard’s endeavour here, although i would like to request that they update their PowerAuras system to be on par with the cooldown tracker. I suppose simply allowing us to make them not appear as icons but as some sort of pulsing thing would do the trick.
And then I also want the talking head removed and be able to hide action bar one.
Other than that I think I can get along just fine with Midnight’s UI.
You’ll be able to assign sounds to boss abilities and cooldown completion in the default UI in Midnight.
I am a little bit tired of people using disabilities as an excuse to destroy the game for people without disabilities. Having a disability does not mean we need to allow full access to the combat log and every buff, debuff, and everything else going on.
Good. A lot of this “functionality” has smashed PvP to pieces.
Midnight does have DR tracking (FINALLY OMG) arena frames, and arena1/2/3 casting, no problems at all. And that’s what you should have. Not displaying 30 cooldowns, not having tons of icons all over the screen, not having 20 buffs and 12 debuffs and trying to sort it out.
And if Blizzard messes that part up, they have to fix it. Enough of the “addons will fix it” excuses.
Agreed - it would be much better if bosses telegraphed their attacks in a way that basically makes such as an addon completely useless, or there was an assumption that players would engage with the game visually and get some gamesense.
Addons completely wrecked the game for me for several fights. Just absolutely annihilated my FPS and ruined the experience.
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pleae join me while reading the experts in the comment section
Destruction of addons and replacing them with something better that comes from the game is what that i was talking about for a long time . a lot of players from old to new are saying the same. why a game needs addons from other websites or sources to be better and be more complete in 2026.
keep going blizzard destroy them for good, level the field in combat and everything as your saying. GL
The game is not “destroyed” for you. I’m tired of people spouting this nonsense idea that addons are a requirement for you to play the game. If that’s the case then why are there so many people simultaneously saying that they play the game just fine without addons and therefore everyone else should be able to as well? Or that you don’t even need them for high end content ‘cause there are plenty of high end players who don’t use addons? Which is it? Or is it really the fact that some people actually need them and those will be the ones getting screwed over the most? Sound alerts on boss abilities are nice, but as a healer, I need to have the option to have health bars fully change colours on certain debuffs instead of a tiny icon and barely visible border around the health bar, something which still isn’t an option despite it being asked for from the start.
So no, people with disabilities aren’t using “excuses”, it’s people like you who are by claiming the game is being “destroyed” by addons when in reality they fix all of the shortcomings that Blizzard never bothered to do before and might still take ages to fully compensate for. Blizzard destroyed their own game for the casual crowd just to fight addons when there was 0 need for it, just because they cared more about what a few RWF players were doing instead of looking at the majority of the playerbase.
Not even sure what kind of point you are trying to make here. Ironically this is exactly the kind of information players need to be able to see clearly when they are doing content where a debuff that doesn’t get dispelled within a few seconds or one cast not getting kicked will kill you. If it wasn’t crucial for players to know this info, the combat log and buff and debuff icons wouldn’t be a UI element in the first place. It’s important for people to see these things, hence they shouldn’t be displayed poorly like they have been for so long. Add on top of that the incredible bloat when it comes to different procs and buffs that you will have up at any given time, half of which you can ignore, and the other half which you need to keep track of because they dictate what to press next, both of them mixed together in no particular order. The UI works perfectly fine for Classic where you don’t have 50 different procs and buffs you need to track and the content has a set difficulty where messing up a mechanic is very forgiving 90% of the time. With all of the changes over the years to the content and classes in Retail, this kind of UI is no longer even remotely acceptable.
Thank you for your work Blizzard! The changes were greatly needed!
Pulling up to a boss and having to wait for notes to be configured because weakauras can’t function without them, or wiping because someone had a wrong version of the aura just needs to go. These aura packs that became meta/mandatory in mythic raiding after amirdrassil also need to go.
Additionally, hopping on a new class and needing 15 different WAs to do basic content was just abysmal.
I can’t express how happy this direction has made me.
Anti-addons people’s big arguments in a nutshell
You misunderstand me, I’m on the side of no addons, I’m very happy they’re going, nowhere did I say anything to the contrary. From how far behind it feels like progress on everything is right now, it feels like Midnight just… won’t have what’s actually required/promised by the time it launches? Like we’re gonna go for 2-3 patches before everything they’ve talked about and promised is in the game or in working order.
Especially with PvP already so neglected in every other area, and on beta now it feels like they’re making very few considerations for the PvP side of the UI with many of the changes they’re making for PvE. Maybe that will change when PvP gets looked at in later cycles (I hope it does), but it scares me regardless with how little support PvP has gotten in the recent past in general.
Maybe that’s fearmongering, but it feels like many of these changes should have already been ready for testing with how big a change this is to the game. Instead most of it seems like it’s being made haphazardly week-by-week as patches roll by and subsequently filled with bugs.
DR tracking is also a promised feature, but not currently working (there’s apparently a console command that barely does anything). On further review, arena frames also seem to have gotten a very small update and look like a passable enough substitute for SArena/Gladius. Arena1/2/3 macros have been a thing forever.
I’m also happy omnibar and weakaura packages that shout about cooldowns being used are gone, but Blizz needs to actually help with the transition period for this, because the entire thing that made weakauras “needed” was because Blizz stopped giving major cooldowns visuals. Windwalker Monks in Shadowlands would get a buff with no visual cues and throw a small bottle at you and 1shot you next global. Arms Warriors would Colossus Smash you and then murder you, again with just a random attack that basically looked like any other attack they might do. So they need to give major cooldowns (and defensives tbh) a good visual cue so you can better know what’s going on in a world without addons.
Could you please explain this in a more detailed way?
Because according to what you writed:
Addons never had effect on your game, and you support the removal, because it would have effect on other people’s game.
I mean I don’t see why is it good, if you never needed addons anyway, but others needed and love them. ![]()
If you don’t use them, why do you care about them?
(No blaming, whatever you will respond, I need to accept that, I won’t answer of flame back, I am really curious the logic behind this, because at first glance it makes no sense for me
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Care to illuminate us WHY?
For years and years: “Addons are killing the game! Get rid of all addons!”
When it happens: “No don’t take away our addons why are you never listening to us!”
Wow players in a nutshell. Wonder what the next thing will be when this blows over.
Because most people are forced to use addons. Especially if they are in a guild. It’s also not “new player” friendly - instead of playing the game, they spend 2hours researching what addons to download and how to set them up. It’s not about whether I use the addons or not. Overall if addons are removed, it will be better for the game’s health and the new players. It will also be better for devs as they will be able to design better mechanics, and they won’t have to design around addons.
Hallelujah ![]()
A 200 dollar Bwonsamdi mount
…You do realise that these are two completly different kinds of players, right?
Im cautiosly optimistic though. Launch-phase will be a weird experience for sure and the first raid will surely be easier because of it. And with all the people playing the game, Blizzard can and will balance it out to meet us in the middle of letting us customize our UI without it going overboard again.
Time is the problem here. Take to long and it will be very poopie. But breaking to fast and allowing to much will bring us just back to now. It is a gamble on how fast Blizzard can balance it to the majoritys liking.