How about just lining CS bro? 
the fact you dont even know how your own class works is crazy to me barkskin does not increase your heals by 20% that is ironbark please you are terrible at rdruid and in no position to be discussing anything about balance for other classes when you cant even play your own also you mean the verdant heart talent which gives barkskin and frenzy regen 20% healing buff but it does not stack with everything like ironbark does.
Yet rdruid has it all and you want to survive people swapping on you because you pressed random treants and used barkskin while inside a stun lmao i can kill a rdruid on any class if he goes into a full 6 second stun and only uses barkskin.
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It’s funny that you say I’m wrong and terrible at druid and in the same sentence say I’m right cause yes Barskin and Regen do increase healing received by 20% because at the very top of the class tree we have a talent that does that. 
maybe if you didn’t suck so badly on rogue you wouldn’t need it to be so OP to be able to do anything on it.
Treants if you like it or not are a large portion of our healing and heal for ALOT. With 3 treants out you basically don’t need to heal your teammates and can spend the next 15secs to run after the enemy healer. Well sadly not vs SUB, cause Rogues are just dumb broken and do 300k+ DPS.
First off i dont play rogue 2nd no it does not stack the same way as if you had full hots on someone and ironbark up your mastery from just one hot increases your healing by around 10-15% per target 20% is nothing im not the one stuck at 1600 complaining about how rdruid is hard to survive on when its the easiest healer to damp people on right now.
Ohh so you admit treants are broken and because 1 class can punish you they need to be nerfed i hope they add many more ways to insta kill rdruid because its an abomination of a class atm and you are pretty bad for not been able to push on it.
If you must know ironbark increases your hots healing by 20% so it does not stack with other modifiers like your mastery barkskin does a 20% from barkskin ontop of your 50% mastery buff will make it a 70% increase where as ironbark would increase your baseline and the +50% by 20% which is stronger.
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How wrong can a person be?
Please don’t talk about RDruid, cause you know not a single thing about it. Ironbark is EXACTLY like Barskin. With 4 HoTs up and Ironbark you heal 6500 with reju, with 4 hots and Barskin you heal for 6500. There is no baseline BS going on here, you just made it up to make yourself sound smarter, but you just made yourself look dumb for anyone that knows anything about RDruid.
And again Regen + Barskin stack together, so with both of them up you get a more than 40% increase to your healing.
I’m not even playing this season if you haven’t noticed. I cap Conquest and get 3 vault. I don’t even got gear.
I’m not complaining RDruid is hard to survive… you must be single digit IQ to think that… But for the single digit IQ people out there that didn’t understand my message I’ll say it again - ROGUES NEED A NERF. This is what we were talking about, not about RDruids needing buffs. Keep up slowpoke.
Yes treants are OP. No it’s not about SUB punishing, it’s about SUB being OP vs EVERYTHING. Keep up, my god you slow mate. Might wanna go visit a doc with your syptoms.
BS BS BS BS BS and more BS. Not a single thing you said this whole post was right. Stick to talking about DK or abuse SUB more mate, cause your knowledge about other classes just sucks mate.
Well at least you tried to seem smart, sadly it just didn’t work. Better try next time mate.
go check again adaptive swarm and ironbark stack differently.
You play one class and its druid how many abilities does a sub rogue have to press to kill you in a stun if you just press barkskin?
Im not playing this season but im playing to get cap dont fool yourself you are waiting for mmr to go up so you can reach duelist again finally which you have only ever been able to achieve in shuffle.
this thread was actually about damage been too high when the game is balanced right now and healers are very strong you was the one who brought up you shouldnt die to a sub rogue because you press barkskin and had pressed treants 10 seconds earlier.
You complain all the time on these forums about your class been weak when the only spec that is below S tier right now is feral druid boomy and rdruid are both S tier you have no idea what you are talking about next you are going to tell me avatar and warbreaker both stack together.
Also lets not forget regenerative heartwood which just by itself makes ironbark stronger than barkskin.
Sorry to interrupt this flow of thoughts, but what actually gives you an authority to make presumptions on class balance if you’ve literally said you don’t play the game and therefore have no idea about it?
Not rating bashing or something, but your pvp achievements are… not really impressive tbh. It just looks kinda funny to me. Rogues are really strong, but druids are the last healers to complain about them.
Its very clear you just want passive abilities to be the only thing you have to press because you dont have a single clue how the game works if a rogue trades shadowblades and every cd in the game and put you in a full kidney while you have 0 hots but just barkskin and a passive proc you should trinket tranquility he will not 1 shot you on the next go because he wont have shadowblades and other big cds thats the goes that you use your passive barkskin/proc for not to sit peoples entire kits just because you dont want to learn the game.
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You can, because, you know, the base of the pyramid is huge compared to its apex.
Every game that balances around the base dies off very fast the game is already balanced around the middle at the moment thats why cc does not matter and only dampening does thats because the healers who are too bad to avoid cc can still fight back but the lower dps players actually need something to die to feel rewarded.
Also the majority of players play dps so lets balance around them instead ?
by your own logic we should not care about healers because they are a minority.
ww dh and all casters need to be gutted and wow is fine
I kinda agree. Possibly leave it to Warr and maybe Demo… also maybe Hunter?
But what used to be cool class perk turned into necessity and instead of making comps fun (let’s look for this class perk), it’s more of a check-list and if you don’t have it, your comp is invalid… I don’t think that’s good.
And sure there are exception, I just mean generally.
I know we haven’t always had the sweetest forum interactions, but trust me, answering that Jenovas guy and trying to argue with him, to talk with logic, is not something that is going to work. You surely have walls where you live. You can talk with one and the ordeal will yield better results.
The weird mind of a 1600 gamer thinking he knows best and all that.
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You can’t read more than one sentence at a time and understand it? Is 6 words the most you can read at a time? That very same line of text explains that I play to cap.
I play just to cap my stuff, don’t play more than that cause we got specs like DH early season and SUB now soloing games and I’m not having fun playing 3v3 and having some OP specs solo.
And you think anyone cares what a nobody like you has to say? Please go get a life. Your life achievements are… not that impressive tbh. Go get a life, cause you look kinda funny to me.
I don’t even play healer. I main feral, always have, play RDruid to cap faster honor. I even wrote about this above. I said RDruid is OP in the post that you quoted, but you seem to not be able to understand more than 5 words at a time from a post…
Yes I know Rogue players love to oneshot and think that rogue has to oneshot or it’s not viable. Weird how the majority of the community seems to agree with me not you. So maybe you are the “wall” in this situation? Also you talking about “logic” is a bit ironic.
The mind of a rogue player, empty.
No, I don’t agree actually. But you can keep thinking that you know what others think better than themselves and without even asking if it pleases you.
No one is disagreeing with me there, I am not defending Sub. In fact, Sub Rogue during Shadowblades is extremely stupid. Essentially, short of an immunity, Sub@Shadowblades is unstoppable and requires multiple CC spells or multiple defensives in order to stay alive.
The overall Rogue rework was good across all specs, but to this day I don’t understand why Shadowblades had to be changed in that insane CD. It was bad before, sure, but now it is broken. An in-between wasn’t that hard to find.
Whenever I play Sub and have Shadowblades up it feels like cheating, few specs are equipped to stop me because even if they stack enough CDs I can just swap around, Duel to be sure I won’t be CC’ed etc etc.
Also, it creates something really awkward, because the rotation with blades is insanely fluid (and broken), but without blades you lack the power to land kills even within 7-10s with main stat nerfs and stuff, and the rotation feels … strange. There is way too big of a powergap between CDs and no CDs.
Why am I not suffering from rogues on 2.1k+? I had plenty of games this season - my first ever solo shuffle season - and I loved it. During all these games there wasn’t 1 time (NOT A SINGLE TIME) I was soloed by a rogue. Why is that? I’ve played vs tens of good rogues, including forum posters and it was a fun game of chess. Playing vs rogue demands brain - you get punished really hard if you fail. The damage MIGHT be a little bit too much, I agree, but rogues are definitely not
Yea-yea-yea, we’ve seen this clip. Yes, it was a great play by rogue, the druid got caught with no hots out of form with no trinket, while rogue had all buttons up. That’s a fair death imo.
No, I don’t. That’s why I’m not making assumptions on what should be changed on forums with audacity.
Again - presumptions about my life based on your personal issues and projections .
It’s okay to be bad, you don’t have to get mad at me for just talking to you in a polite way.
Yes, I guess it’s my bad I can’t read your incoherent nonsense you’re trying to put up together. You don’t play arena, but you play if for cap. You don’t play healer, but you play it for cap.
Seriously, bro, just get better.
You can’t even understand more that 5 words at a time… Leave your nonsense out of here. Nobody cares about you trying to flex your PvP achievements or bring up PvP achievements of others.
Really it just makes you look sad and pathetic - sorry I’m the one telling you this, but normal people reading some nobodies flex PvP achievements on a forum aren’t going “WOW what an amazing dude!” they actually say “This guys life must be sad”.
Seriously, bro, just get out of here. You ain’t gonna write anything valuable and nobody cares about your achievements. Grow up, get an achievement in the real world, you won’t feel the need to flex some random game numbers online.
But you’re not trying to explain
Can you quote 1 time I’ve flexed my achievements pls?
You’re seeing what you wanna see, because you get triggered. I totally understand you’re mad, because you don’t match your own expectations, but it’s okay to be bad at something. Trust me, you have to admit it and life’s going to be much easier in all terms.
But what makes you think YOU are going to?
Are you a girl? Ladies talking the same nonsense non-fact-based language.
The facts are that you are:
- Low exped player with no understanding of how the game works/should work. I also am, and that’s fine.
- You contradict your own words. Multiple quotes above.
- Making attempts of personal assaults and false presumptions, drawing away from the topic. If you wanna know more about my life, ask me out for dinner.
Can you answer to an easy question: what makes you think you’re capable of writing
or making presumptions about who’s op and who’s not and what should be changed?
Is there at least ONE reason for you to talk?
The facts are that you are:
- Nobody cares about you.
Go get a life you nolife. And with the last post you just showed us you are also a misogynist. Who would have guessed? You don’t leave your mom’s basement, so no wonder you’ve never had contact with a real “girl / lady”.
Adding you to the ignore list, won’t be wasting more time on you.