DH and rogue nerf when?

And aug gets the blame. Part of the reason devastation is justmore fun

They still give tons of utility and survivalbitity … not to mention that its easy to not have bad DPS, especially on high keys

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Because youve never invited some with a good score who turned out to be trash?

So despite Havoc (cause its havoc your on about) not being as easy as people think, and need a fair bit of monitoring and juggling, you feel there should be no reward for this, and others instead should be rewarded in their place ?

I wasnt implying your playing lock for easy dmg or anything. I was merely pointing out that Destro Locks had a far easier rotation (in M+ at least) and the hardest part was finding a tank that would group trash up and stand still instead of non stop moving, so rain of fire could do its work.

The utility and survivability only works well if they know how to use it. And again, it depends on the group.

Remove the utility or survivability, or event he fact they buff dmg, and there is no point to them being in the game, in any content. Cause they cannot solo stuff, they would be useless in raid, and too much of a liability in M+.

Blizz made their bed, they now need to lay in it. Its probably why they have said they do not plan on any more support classes in the game, as its turning into a S.Show.

I agree, no need to really nerf specs into the ground, maybe some slight adjustments here and there, but I think it’s more important to bring other specs to a more competitive state instead of nerfing the top specs, I mean I main WW, and it has been terrible pretty much this whole expac, we are literally at the bottom right now in the Raid, M+ isnt great either, and we also only have 1 dps spec, give WW some love finally!

Even with the changes it got DH is still one of the easy specs.

I am all for rewarding people. I just dont feel like easy specs should get the same reward as harder specs.

AGAIN Destrolock being simple and strong in SL is not an excuse for other specs. I hated the last season of SL.

I generally dont like to watch or play such specs.

Oh, I was on about Destro lock this xpac

This is such a twisted way of thinking.I suspect frustration or something.

Never have seen monks crying like that. Maybe you should just consider to play the class because it has a nice playstyle and rotation not whining about being meta.

I also can’t imagine that you are even playing in that league

Its not really difficult to use Aug kit at all…

And why should we balance for groups that dont know what they are doing?

Aug-Evokers were a mistake, it was obv before they were released. It got even more obv when they showed their abilities … and when they were released it was proven.

The whole spec is bad for the game, not only because they dont have any real competition (and they wont get any in TWW) but because they cant be balanced… they are either OP or useless.

And after they nerfed DEMO-WL into the ground (over 25% nerf) in WOD with the words: ‘‘We rather want you dont play Demo-WL’’ … I am all for it to be nerfed till they are reworked.

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What league?The elitist league?No thanks.
I would love monks to get some love.
I am not frustrated and demanding nerfs even though some are Op since Dawn of time.
I don’t like nerfs period.Let all classes be OP.More choices.

Doesnt change much about anything I said

How is it twisted? Rewards should be determinded by the input. Why should someone that barely does anything get the same as someone who ‘‘works their butt off’’?

But I can for sure say back in the day when I pvped it was frustrating to play pvp whenever they were good.

Nerfing the outliers is a good approach. It requires more to buff the rest. Why would any sane dev do that?

Which by your way of thinking means

Frost Mage
DK
BM Hunter
Surv Hunter
(MM ?)
Havoc
Evoker
Guardian Druid
Destro Lock
Ret Pally

And who knows what others all should never shine because their simply too easy.

Its a great way to destroy the game for people.

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Because there is no such thing as working your in a game.
You enjoy playing it…
But you aren’t working.
It should reflect enjoyment and fun.

Have to say BM should never be on top of the other two specs.

BM is crazy atm you can press your 2 buttons and even have no limitations on movement.

A bit more reward for gameplay should be required to be on top

I will speak for Havoc - Don’t know what’s wrong with the idea that the spec that was decently strong in S1 and then completely bottom tier useless in S2, is now performing exceptionally well in S3. Especially since Havoc is kind of built around being great in M+ as most of your abilities either cleaves or does burst AoE.

Especially since our ST is not the best in the world and never was.

Shine?
Why things have to be OP to be enjoyable?

Easy classes can easily be A Tier so everyone can still enjoy them.

I just not want them to be broken OP. Which I think is a valid way of seeing things.

I am not saying they should be in B-D Tier all time, just please not in S Tier.

This

Why you think i put work in ‘’ ‘’ ?

I personally enjoy challenges in games… and so do many others.

Do you also think people that run Normal deserve Mythic gear?