🍸 [DISBANDED] The Family and Companies: Closed for Business! - Criminal Guild

[Vixí-argent-dawn (Vixí)]

Upvote this if you are in the 5’0(154 cm) feet gang(give or take a few numbets in either direction)

[Tarrook-argent-dawn]

Hey Einstein rocked it tbh

[Koiffen-argent-dawn (Koiffen)]

I can but send good vibes your way.

[Triseloux-argent-dawn]

@Chíel-argent-dawn

I never intended to infiltrate on an OOC level, but I’ve already covered that.

Whether you intended to undermine the guild or not matters little - in the end, you caused damage to the guild. And the whole premise - hiding under an alt as some second-identity - sounds weird and iffy. Here’s why:

@Chíel-argent-dawn

My concern as to why this was not done was people I RP’d with on Kweezlet changing their IC based on knowing it was me OOC. I didn’t want that potential change. It’s why I ‘hid my identity’.

What made you think that they would react different to you under a guise? You are still the same person, still the same roleplayer, the same style. I can only imagine two answers:

1. You believed their reaction was disingenous and “knowing your true you” would have made them like you.
2. You believed you could masquerade as a different person and portray a different personality.

When were you planning to reveal yourself? Were you planning to ever tell the people you tricked that you were deceiving them? Did you not consider that this deception would only reinforce the negative feeling mentioned under #1 and that eventually, your personality would reveal yourself despite #2 (as it happened!)?

From your line “honestly planning to leave anyways” it really feels like a messed-up sociopathic escapade.

@Chíel-argent-dawn

This WAS something I tried to explain to Perroy, but I didn’t get very far in it.

Of course you didn’t. You were trying to convince someone you did no “infiltration” after admitting you deceived people into thinking you were another player and rousing people to replace the guild master.

In conclusion

Honestly, I established my timeline suggesting others to assume you were manipulative/deceptive and your callout thread was weird lies and you come here to confirm the latter and heavily underline the former. I don’t really have words.

My only surprise is the meme-y chill way Perroy deflected your PMs instead of lashing out.

[Gjallahåd-argent-dawn]

They call him the Dutch, Danny DeVito

[Perroy-argent-dawn (Perroy)]

@Chíel-argent-dawn

I’m not sorry to the PCU - no, actually, I am. I’m sorry to the people within the PCU who have had nothing to do with this, who have had themselves dragged through the dirt based on a few minor players within that I feel ruined things within the community. I don’t harbor ill will to the PCU on a whole, only certain people within it.

Presumably that ill will informed your decision on which guild you would unironically buy a second game license to infiltrate

@Chíel-argent-dawn

If you think what I did is wrong, that’s your opinion, I won’t try to convince you otherwise.

You say in the midst of a 1 million word post damage controlling what you did

@Chíel-argent-dawn

This WAS something I tried to explain to Perroy, but I didn’t get very far in it.

Yeah, I’m not interested in extended conversations with what is essentially a less funny and less successful version of Hrothgarr

@Chíel-argent-dawn

This is only a segment of the conversation, to add.

You should post the whole thing

@Chíel-argent-dawn

As Jekle has said, we actually do still exist as a community

@Jekle-argent-dawn

I haven’t heard a peep from most of our members

Bastille - Pompeii (Official Music Video)

@Chíel-argent-dawn

https://imgur.com/a/rcA1yii

You should send the bit beforehand where you unironically try to shake me down (on two occasions, right?) about how players RPing in an empty building was a problem (because that building was the sole property of your offline guild and the offline members would have stopped them or something)

@Chíel-argent-dawn

So we freed up the upstairs. Unfortunately, this wasn’t quite relayed to others who assumed we still blocked off the upstairs. We didn’t, and even in the end of the Guild’s lifespan the upstairs was customer open. We never then locked it off again, I’m not sure how or why that was assumed.

It was never yours to free / unlock / allow anyone from using a public building in the game world. Your guild never had any claim or ownership to in-game assets added by Blizzard

Please don’t type like you did someone a great favour by not sending them walls of text in whispers for RPing within 2 miles of some building

@Chíel-argent-dawn

I have truly no intention of returning to WoW.

Not on this account, at least

@Chíel-argent-dawn

I will also say that BB didn’t ignore us when the Kweezlet situation happened, they were still amicable, and for that I’m really thankful. I’m not sure how or who or what was said to imply that they ignored us, they never did, even after what was done. This is respectful in itself, and even admirable.

Yet despite that piece of fully undeserved kindness, you still decided to give them what you imagined would be a dramatic parting shot. Well, here you are days later doing damage control for your persona on a game you claim you will never retrun to

Funny

@Chíel-argent-dawn

Anyway, the point is, I don’t think I’m a victim in the slightest.

Nobody thought that so no need to clarify

@Chíel-argent-dawn

The situation in which someone was kicked from PCU discord

Owned

@Chíel-argent-dawn

The whole reason I posted what I did is because I am an honest person, to a fault.

LOL

Please remove that baseball cap from your brow at once

A tip for the gamers of the AD forum: when somebody says “my main flaw is how honest I am” they are almost never telling the truth

@Chíel-argent-dawn

Overall and generally speaking it built up. I won’t go into the ‘did I metagame on Sixty’ situation because I still to this day don’t think I did

Yeah it’s weird how these things keep happening and you’re always justified and not really in the wrong and you’re just so honest but people keep thinking you’re a slippery individual (wrongly, because you’re so honest)

Weird how these things happen

@Chíel-argent-dawn

Yes, it was called Chiel’s Simp Initiative, and it was an ironic title. It actually went through some other equally cringey yet amusing (at least to us) names.

https://imgur.com/a/wbk9dyu

The hidden technique of reverse damage control

Sorry those gnomes got caught up in the crazy schemes to be honest

@Chíel-argent-dawn

I don’t believe the PCU is some hellbent evil

Obviously not given you paid for an additional game license to join it

@Chíel-argent-dawn

Now please, God, someone lock this damned thread already.

I hope it remains open for all time

[Koiffen-argent-dawn (Koiffen)]

Only by Dutch standards…

[Gjallahåd-argent-dawn]

Damn right

[Koiffen-argent-dawn (Koiffen)]

Sounds like we stole something from you approximately 300 to 400 years ago.

[Koiffen-argent-dawn (Koiffen)]

No comment.

[Jekle-argent-dawn]

@Jekle-argent-dawn

I haven’t heard a peep from most of our members and our Discord’s still open, so I’d like to think they’re at peace with what happened.

Bad wording on my part: the Discord’s still active, most people in it just don’t seem particularly invested in what’s going on in this thread. They’ve moved on from it.

[Croecell-argent-dawn (Croecell)]

But honestly, when somebody is using “you’re bald” as an insult, I’m pretty sure its in association with malding (you’re so angry, you’re going bald by pulling out your own hair)

Am I correct?

[Gjallahåd-argent-dawn]

The King? or There Harbor…or the fleet one of those i bet

[Perroy-argent-dawn (Perroy)]

The implication is that stress / anger leads to hairloss

[Triseloux-argent-dawn]

@Perroy-argent-dawn

Not on this account, at least

@Triseloux-argent-dawn

The drama queen / victim queen makes another alt account and re-joins the community, only to be revealed months later because they fail to keep their secret / fail to keep their tendencies in check and the situation plays out again.

Wanna take a bet?

[Taigha-argent-dawn]

It does… IT DOES.

[Vixí-argent-dawn (Vixí)]

Is this why so many Wow villians are bald?

[Croecell-argent-dawn (Croecell)]

Even better.

So you may still have a full head of hair physically, but inside you’re so angry its falling out?

(not you in particular Perroy obviously)

[Jenit-argent-dawn (Jenit)]

legit preferred evil santa jailer concept art

[Morsteth-argent-dawn (Morsteth)]

@Croecell-argent-dawn

So you may still have a full head of hair physically, but inside you’re so angry its falling out?

Exactly but it is more funny shouting MY HAIR !!! when someone messes you up in PvP