Dks in 2s above 2k 0.7% XD

It literally is lmao, why can you play warr and WW with other classes, but dk is only viable with either of those 2, rather WW :thinking:
Don’t even compare DK to those 2, if you give dk MS it would still be way weaker

Might as well say that DK was viable in BfA S1 because there was like 1 dh dk rshaman team semi high rated (r1 rating in a bugged mmr season)

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Don’t get me wrong cutie, I know that you are a good player and I never doubted your skill and sry if a seem rude, but in this case I believe that having 1 comp where you are getting carried by synergy doesn’t necessarily mean that your spec is in a good state.

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these kind of threads basically ask me to get perma banned on this forums so i am going to just rest it here

But a rogue can pump 2s with a wide variety of comps and still be successful as can a ww. At present a dk doesn’t do anything but harass, interrupt and create windows for a ww/arms u know this as you’ve said it. How many comps can a ww/rogue run in 2s/3s?

DK is in a terrible position and just becuase 1 or 2 comps are viable doesn’t make it right. I can think of multiple comps with a ww in both brackets that would all be considered very strong. Not sure what your point is. Are you implying that we should leave dk in this state because if u run 1 comp it works?

dk should be named wws pet at this point hehe

I mean if you want to be as competitive as possible, you have to play your best comp, and TWD is a top tier comp.

Having multiple viable comps is a luxury and not something you should really count on in most seasons.

I think devs decide that have 1 or 2 viable comps is definitely fine, they are viable in 3-s, good in raids. DK is fine. They just don’t care anything others and ofc about state DK for mediocre players or 2-s. If u don’t like something just reroll.

Some clowns are gonna tell you representation has nothing to do with balance.

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This is only because Death Strike healing was nerfed to the ground.

Other than that DK is fine

Ok, let’s turn these arguments around, shall we? I think rogue should only be allowed to be a stun bot for mages in 3s in that case. Follows the exact same logic you two are spouting rn. Rogue shouldn’t have any damage whatsoever. Why would they need it? They can setup kills for others. With that, they’re viable. :clown_face:

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WW/frost dk is actually alot of fun to play, actually pulling off the setup feels rewarding and is very, very potent.

I will say that after your cd’s your damage (as the dk) is kind of dog. And yes, death strike nerfs should have been reverted months ago.

I’m not sure about WW but at the moment Rogue has like 2 comps in 2s that are good, and that would be Sub Fire and Sub Disc. And since the nerf Sub Disc just gets anihilated by Arms in every way regardless of the healer Arms is with, and you also usually get shredded by good WWs and Ferals and since those comps are about 80% of the 2s ladder around Elite 
 you don’t exactly have a great time. Yes, one team managed to get high rating as Sub Survival, the comp isn’t too bad, but well
 there is a reason why it’s only one team and not more.

As for 3s, Sub Mage Healer obviously, or Sub Shadow Rsham. The occasional Rogue Hunter Disc as well. That’s all. Just like with 2s you could play with other specs such as Balance, but it’s not exactly stable higher in the ladder, so it doesn’t qualify as an actual comp.

So no, you don’t have many comps.

I’m told WWs have more comps though, since they work wity all healers reasonably well in 2s, and can play with Mage, Shadow, and melee cleaves in 3s.

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Exactly.

You know how WW in legion worked right?

I remember something along those lines for a while, yeah. But I also remember the constant complaining
 :rofl:

Just face it, people want to have their fun time in 2s as well. As the class they main, or whatever.

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Sub hpala, spriest are also top contenders. Even so, it’s alot more than dk currently have available. What is it 4 dk’s above 2.4 on the 2s ladder? Point here is that dk is utter garbage and it’s options are extremely limited due to how poor it performs. I don’t expect 2s to be balanced cuz it never is but the difference between the top performing specs and lower ones are night and day. This happened in bfa season 1 for dk’s and its happened again. It isnt undertuned or lackluster it’s utter garbage. I don’t regret buying shadowlands but i definitely regret sticking with my dk.

Being a cd cancer, chains of ice spamming grip bot isn’t fun for anybody.

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Frost DKs are gutted in pvp. The majority of our abilities in pvp are reduced by 50-66%. We’re currently in the worst spot we’ve ever been. These nerfs don’t belong in the current pvp meta. We’re also in the bottom in Mythic + logs and on the lower end in raids. There is currently no spot for frost dks where they outperform anyone. Currently every other class will be a better pick for all content.

(I didn’t mean to reply to you specifically, BewarĂȘ, just to thread as a whole. That was a mistake. Not sure how to change it.)

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Why are you replying to me with that
 ? Did you not understand what I wrote?

guys cutipie cant agree that hes class is beyond broken atm and that ww carry dk in 3s
but every player on stream said even trill r1 ww from us
that dk is the grip that the ww need to aoe a team to death and notihng more
oh and cutie LOOK AT TOPIC ape 2s NOT 3s

We need to buff ww more so it carries dk better

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theres 2 options

  1. is nerf every op/STROng(wich i dont like the idea) class ww/arms/afli/boomy/fire/ret/mm/feral/sp
    2.buff dk unh is a must wich i preffer the beter idea is all classes to feel op and not nerfed to ground
    blizzard choose ignorence anyway