The OP never played an ele and it shows. Moreover, whoever is saying that ele is broken, never played one.
I encourage you to make one and go in arena, enjoy being camped 100% of the times in any scenarios by any compositions, with a single defensive cooldown that you cant even use during stuns. Totems are jokes, lasso is a joke since youre also “stunned” during usage, as you can`t do anything else except look silly.
Actually, all shamans are in desperate need of a class re-work since its talents are well outdated and not performing well in today`s wow.
not really similar at all because MM requires like 3 gcds to set up and 1 CC or disarm interrupts the entire combo at which point you just run them down because they dont really have much to kill you with for another minute
If we go this way… ele shaman needs full malestrom stacked up, 3 GCD (skyfury, primordial, earth shock) + interruptable cast (stormkeeper) to prepare his burst, which can be simple [beeped] up by: kill the 50 hp skyfury totem even with an auto-attack or dispell flame shock at the right time on the focus target (right after primordial wave used, it’s have a spectacular spell effect when casted).
The full RNG burst is another question, it’s should not be possible at all (still need a lot of luck… ~1% to chain proc overloads and Ascendance proc, but 1% is still more than 0%). Outside of chain procs it’s not more than 80-100k damage (ascendance proc + 1 overload = still lucky).
just because we can rofl meatball someones 100-20 doesnt mean dmg is great, we have to build dots to hope for procs, just because you got killed by a once in a 2 hour burst dont make it good, if we could get the dmg on demand then yes but its just random rng dmg…
MM burst is one of the easiest things in the game to stop, big reason why the spec drops off a cliff at higher ratings because you dont do any damage (unlike ele that pumps 2x more overall damage regardless of if you get your stormkeeper burst off) outside of burst, and most classes in the game can press that 1 button to interrupt rapid fire or just line it during the 3 gcd extremely telegraphed setup and nullify the whole go.
it’s not at all comparable because if someone kicks your stormkeeper or ccs u on ur primordial wave once it hardly ever matters, if that happens on the setup where ur pressing double tap > chakrams > volley, or if ur still too slow, simply on the rapid fire, ur damage is gone, deleted, non existent. it’s not at all comparable to “oh well my stormkeeper got CCd and he killed my skyfury, ill still keep proccing 24/7 from my 3-4 perma lusted flame shocks and occasionally global someone with ascendance”.
OMG just stop this “global someone with ascendance”. I’m sooo tired of this BS. You should need 6-8 overload proc for that Ascendance does nothing, just shoots one more lava burst with +6-7% damage since no one stacks crit (durr +40k damage on ST).
I think It can be like this;
Lava Surge proc
Instant Lava Burst
Another one from Overload
Ascendance proc; another Lava Burst, this Lava Burst overloads too.
So its 4 meatballs and somewhere between 100 - 150k damage.
Now I personally don’t think Ele needs any nerfs. It is balanced; does good dmg, dies very quickly. The only place perhaps it may require a change is these random Ascendance procs. I would rather it becomes something like Ret’s proc wings. Like; you get a stack per lava burst and at 50 stack proc Ascendance. That way people can make a WA for it prepare. Otherwise its way too random, sometimes (rarely) happens back to back too.
I agree with that. I don’t like deeply rooted elements it’s a bad designed rng talent which sometimes procs 3 times in a row and other times never for 2 min straight. I don’t even use it as resto even though it has some potential.
The biggest problem with ele is how he literally doesn’t need to cast a single spell outside his oneshot stormbolt thingy. He can literally do full unhindered damage with his instant random procs that will still keep doing even if you keep dispelling the flame shock on cooldown
I just lvled a ele last week, and played a bit, I do agree the damage is really high, but it feels very random also, and I feel like whenever ppl see blue, they right away train it,
I do think the damage is too high, my sham isnt even that geared, just honor gear, and I do pretty good damage, can only imagine how it is with high ilvl/tier.
The thing is, if they nerf the damage, then the spec is gonne be garbage, they should nerf the damage a bit, but something has to be done about defensives I think, or else you just destroy the spec.
Ascendance does nothing, just shoots one more lava burst with +6-7% damage since no one stacks crit (durr +40k damage on ST).