stop dodging how are they making pvp easier you poet?
Usually in my experience of observing people argue they get personal once they run out of appealing arguments, perhaps you made too strong argument 
Well, thatâs a matter of opinion isnât it? Trophies are rewards for competitive excellence - whether itâs winning world cup or hitting a certain skill level in WoW PvP⌠you canât use physics to decide if theyâre conceptually equivalent or not. But if they made a mount that was exclusive to the very, very best PvPers I would not be against that.
WoW isnât other games, itâs quite unique in many ways which is its USP Iâd argue.
If it wasnât for the tradition of adding final raid boss Mythic mount as a low-drop mount for farming old content⌠then yes, they should provide prestige rewards for the best raiders. And a mount only available to top M+ players? Absolutely.
I have no problem with certain rewards being out of my reach because my skill level is too low. There are more than enough rewards in the game for all levels of ability. Personally speaking, my problem isnât so much with inconsistency, its with OP wanting to remove inconsistency by removing exclusivity.
Maybe we need more rewards for lower-level PvPers. PvE throws many, many cosmetics, pets and mounts at players. Itâs far more rewarding in that sense than PvP irrespective of whether or not thereâs a special Glad mount that can be obtained easily after the season is finished.
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20 lines? YeahâŚlets see.
How is it an inconsistent system? Because Blizzard sets gladiator to 2,4k cr and people push way beyond that? Care to elaborate or do you prefer be a little child that throws a tantrum because you dont get the cool mount?
Glad players worked for their mounts. You come here with a disgusting attitude demanding the same mounts that they have becauseâŚwhat exact reason? You are a mount collector and cant get them anymore?
Screams âentitlementâ.
The entitlement mentality is defined as âa sense of deservingness or being owed a favor when little or nothing has been done to deserve special treatmentâ .
Here is the definition of entitlement.
That hardly matters lol. Nobody cares about subjective arguments. Its still a gladiator mount.
Not really. I dont play at such a low rating, when I play Solo Shuffle. And gladiator mounts as participation trophies wont fix that. PvP has a fundamental problem, not a reward problem. Screams entitlement again.
I love to be in an âeliteâ bubble. M+, CE raiding and somewhat high arena. Atleast people up there dont argue with their feelings, but offer facts.
Dangerous words. Someone could think you are homophobic.
Like the old days in TBC? Only the top 0,1% get the title and the mount? Sign me up.
Is that your emotional opinion or a fact according to who exactly?
Edit: https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-an-entitlement-mentality
You should get yourself checked 
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Iâm not advocating for handouts. I just agree with the fact that the accessibility gap between PvE and PvP is huge. Since both are considered pinnacle activities, there should be some way to compare them. Where would you place Gladiator in terms of difficulty compared to a high end PvE achievement?
Iâm pretty bad at PvP so canât really say. I remember having a pretty sweet burst build on my Ret Pally for Warmode back in BfA but that wasnât competitive gameplay.
How is it an inconsistent system? Because Blizzard sets gladiator to 2,4k cr and people push way beyond that? Care to elaborate or do you prefer be a little child that throws a tantrum because you dont get the cool mount?
Glad players worked for their mounts. You come here with a disgusting attitude demanding the same mounts that they have becauseâŚwhat exact reason? You are a mount collector and cant get them anymore?
Screams âentitlementâ.
The entitlement mentality is defined as âa sense of deservingness or being owed a favor when little or nothing has been done to deserve special treatmentâ .
you are all over the place if you want to lean on inconsistency in pvp alone its simple mmr/cr together with static rewards.enough?
Here is the definition of entitlement.
again entitled to what? i didnt ask for anything
That hardly matters lol. Nobody cares about subjective arguments. Its still a gladiator mount.
yy that goes against most of the pvp community bud.
Dangerous words. Someone could think you are homophobic.
what in that sentence was homophobic how old are you?
Is that your emotional opinion or a fact according to who exactly?
plenty of data to back it i dont need to fabricate to make a point go find it champ
You should get yourself checked
wanna be a grown up about the pixel talk or you gonna let the hormones talk?
ps sorry i havenât figured out how quotes work
i still appreciate your thoughts on the matter.
So League of Legends uses an inconsistent system too, according to you? I think you dont understand why pvp uses an mmr / cr based system and pve dont.
You are quite literally asking for glad mounts for lower ranks.
And yet nobody cares. Objective arguments and facts is all that matters.
Please, enlighten us all with that data. Post your sources.
I guess I hit a nerve. Cant answer with facts so you resort to more insults
Mark the part you want to quote, press Quote in the menu that appears and then you will have the part quoted in your comment. The quote looks a bit weird but after you posted it, it should be looking normal.
does league have static rewards at the top?
whatâs the incentive to reach the top in league please answer this.
im actually more towards allowing glad mounts in non dead brackets i just find it funny that they are designing this mounts for a dead bracket.
il give you that i cant provide a source to this its kinda just how the community talks ive been in this discussions quite a few times shadowlands glads/bfa glads tend to be down talked since they were high inflation heavy boosted seasons(to me a glad is a glad)
to supplement heres some of my numbers most pvpers understand how laughable this system is.
| Season | Gladiators (3v3) |
|---|---|
| BFA Season 2 | 1,195 |
| BFA Season 3 | 1,169 |
| BFA Season 4 | 4,343 |
| Shadowlands S1 | 3,717 |
| Shadowlands S2 | 5,001 |
| Shadowlands S3 | 4,709 |
| Shadowlands S4 | 908 |
| Dragonflight S1 | 2,038 |
| Dragonflight S2 | 3,274 |
| Dragonflight S3 | 1,504 |
| Dragonflight S4 | 2,686 |
| The War Within S1 | 1,478 |
low participation in the bottom half of the ladder affects us all in the form of deflation
sir/maam you told me to get check for my mental for simply sharing my point of view i told you to cool down and some how Iâm the one insulting.
ty so much for teaching me how to quote.
Also to add pvers are usually chill at the top the same cant be said about pvpers source any form of social interaction displayed by a pvper.
NEVER MEET YOUR HEROES
Negative bias and agressive behaviour only gets you ignored and not taken seriously.
If you want to have a conversation, do that.
If you wonna vent your frustrations, do that.
One will make u lose respect.
PvP is insanely easy from gearing to accesibility.
Only the glad mounts are difficult to reach.
Even a PvE player can get at least the set bonus and the seasonal Vicious mount with not too much effort.
Requiring perfect synchronozation in terms of difficulty between something static (PvE) and something non static (PvP) is absurd.
But theyre as close as they can get.
If they wonna fine tune the crap out of PvP this will take resources away from PvE and PvE Andies are still gonna cry.
So just git gud.
I also cant reach the Glad mount and even if i could i would never pay for it with my mental health and thats Okay.
Thats a reward on its own.
not to mention how u bash people who have mounts from certain inflated seasons.
Making me remember that there are 0 benefits of mounting glad mounts in the first place- you just get hated on.
And while i agree that high end Andies being toxic, you aint far behind.
You must be someones hero around here.
Hello all, so the opâs idea with this topic is let players obtain old glad mounts with a saddle type ingame token obtained via playing the game, and have opportunity to obtain old glad mounts like people obtain old rare mounts in raids. I think this is good idea, hope they implement it.
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quite the opposite can you not shove words in my mouth?
words such as qqkids,entitled brats,hand outs do these invoke unbias positve discussion to you?
before you vent and accuse me of toxicity how about you read the whole page then report back.
my tone simply matched Nyagatoro and even then he gave me his points in good faith i gave mine so why dont you relax abit
Chances are if they re release those forms its probably gonna be welfare color anyway so you still would have your unique mage tower looks, like the brutosaurus mount for example, which likely will come back anyway to exploit the fomo.
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They giving out mythic chosen sets for free for everyone. Nothing has âvalueâ anymore.
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Everything in old raids are soloable, there is no reason why old glad mounts couldnt be purchaseable with saddles via casual content aswell, makes no difference to old raids giving mounts as soloable now 
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Bro itâs been 8 years, why do you feel the need to gatekeep almost decade old content. Let new players enjoy this dopamine boost, they get to have the cool mount you had 8 years ago. Itâs 1% drop rate btw, and requires 0 skills since the last 6 years, just grind out the raid every week. kee.
The positive effect on new players or casual players getting a few good modern nice cool mounts to start their adventures with vastly outweighs the 1% of sweats who wanna gatekeep everything.
- Youâre kind of coming across like someone who just wants everything handed to them. The whole point of Gladiator mounts is that theyâre a reward for a specific level of achievement during a specific season â
something earned through skill and effort. If everything rare or prestigious becomes freely available later, it completely undermines the meaning of earning it in the first place. Not everything needs to be easy or accessible; some rewards are meant to stay exclusive to preserve their value.
- it would cheapen those achievements and reduce player participation and motivation in future seasons. Why bother competing if everyone eventually gets the same rewards without the effort?
these type of players that moan and want EVERYTHING handed to them are the same people that will kill the game. and jump to another game within a heartbeat.
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No oneâs asking to devalue effort; the point is that the reward system itself is inconsistent. PvE rewards stay obtainable long after the season ends, while PvP rewards vanish, even though both are considered pinnacle content. If accessibility âkills the game,â itâs strange that PvE continues to thrive with permanent mounts, titles, and achievements.
Exclusivity doesnât automatically equal prestige. And if the only thing keeping people motivated is denying others the same rewards later, that says more about the design than the players asking for fairness.
Again who asked for handouts?
pvp is dying fine with out the assistance of this âtype of playersâ.
We have 3 different pinnacles. Raid, M+ and pvp. Only Raid mounts and transmog are available after the season. Pvp and M+ rewards vanish when the seasons ends. They share the exact same reward structure.
The raid reward structure is a different one.
To have a more honest discussion we should exclude raiding because itâs different. M+ and pvp share similarities.