Everything is great but RDF/LFR

Blizz tried that in Vanilla/BC, the vast majority of guilds were stuck in Karazhan, being “feeder guilds” for the more advanced guilds (With geared players hopping to other guilds just as they were about to get into tier 5), and hardly anybody ever laid eyes on Illidan, the marquee villain of the expansion…

Making raids only 5% of the players ever see outside of YouTube is bad business.

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yes yes yes
But why?
How on earth they effect you negatively?
How would removing the tourist modes would improve your game experience?

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Why don’t we just play like WoW cataclysm 2011 if Well of Eternity is one of the best dungeon ever designed

Why can’t I reexperience Blackwing Descent, Thrones of the Wind, Bastion of Twilight and Baradin hold (From Tol Barad) ?

And why can’t I reexperience The Nighthold, Tomb of Sargeras, Emerald Nightmare and Trial of Valor with the groups

…and this exatly how answers my question? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Deleting these game modes would doom the entire Casual community + people just learning to play WoW. Not an option. If anything a FFXIV-style option where people could attach themselves to these instances + torghast, magetower where people could learn the mechanics would be good.

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Yes

Even no lifers are the mythic raiders, they use only th guild

But there is no one ever form a group finder with mythic current raid without guilds

Only normal and heroic

I think at this point it is pointless to contunnie this discussion

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I guess you know what I mean

In 8.3 all of the guildmates left, and so a guild leader, because the worst expansion was BFA, and had the worst raids designed.

Recently, wait, How long? It was during 9.2.0 when I formed my own guild for rest and solo stuff, no raiding there is only me and 1 friend

LFR and lfd is bad because of? There are some people out there don’t have the time to no life this game. So I’m fine with a mode for them :relaxed:

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no he wants to remove mythic too
normal - heroic that’s his sweet spot
he wants everything else removed.

What kind of stupid reasoning is this, you know what the real problem is, in LFR you have people joining high ilvl gear because then they can show off thats the problem. LFR should be locked over a certain ilvl tbh, it should only be for people who wanna learn. Or they should make it like FF14 with npc.

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Normal raiding or hc raiding isnt no life just so you know.

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Excatly

And mythic raiders spend 18+ hours in each day

But how does that affect YOU?
And they dont spend 18 hours a day
Even the hardcore world first ones spend 12 hrs a day for 2 weeks max.

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Professions are a far cry away from perfect.

Hell no they spend less time ingame then most of the casuals tbh. Only rwf guilds spend 12+ hours in raid the first few days.

But 12 hours or anything longer yes

They spend long like that

And casuals are not spending so long

Man a mythic raider maybe they spend 2 - 3 hours a day a casual on some days 4 to 5 hours simple. Raiders dont play that much or spend that much time in raids tbh.

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Not sure why people have a vendetta against LFR and LFD. And please take off your Vanilla rose tinted glasses. Standing in SW and doing “LFM for SM” for 3 hours does not make it more “fun”.
Also, I dont use LFR at all. So I do what any sensible person would do? I just mind my own business and leave that tool at piece for peps who use it. Not actively campaign to remove it.
Whats next then? I don’t like PvP, so we should remove all PvP related activites. Reason? Well I DONT LIKEZ IT!

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I think theyd serve better with AI groups (much like ffxiv does), primarily because it allows players to do this content at a pace they desire, rather then this conflict ongoing.

I think people have this magical theory more players will raid if they couldnt do LFR, and that spamming LFM is more social then queuing