I’m talking about my experience and trying to explain to you how it works out that way (horde pugs facing mostly premades).
My experience when I played Horde was that my queues were instant all through classic.
See I can make stuff up too.
I can admit that there were certain times and certain days (like a day or two before reset) that I could play horde pugs and not face AS MANY premades (they were still there but fewer and worse). In theory because the alliance try hards were honor capped already by then. I also heard that the honor cap was much higher on the alliance, I guess due to shorter queues allowing to grind honor faster.
Why do I even bother? I see you are choosing to stay ignorant so good luck with that… I’m telling you what actually happened when I played BGs as horde. Why would I make all of this up? You are the one making up a bunch of nonsense based on false assumptions and poor logic.
I remember when I looted Warglaives from Nefarian, Just my personal experience though.
Who said you deserve the instant queues :o
Troll confirmed.
Actually, you probably thought you were right but now realized your stupidity. Just too proud to admit it I guess, so better start trolling instead.
Well they don’t have any honor their own warchief called them for northing.
Remove this retarded change or make faction change available so we can all go to horde then
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Or you can just make cross faction gameplay a thing.
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I was just doing what you were doing, You weren’t taking it seriously because you kept making things up.
Why should I be serious if you’re not willing to be?
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All in all a badly needed change and very nicely done BUT you need to sort the matchmaking also so premades face only other premades and not random pugs. Was like this in TBC anyway full premades werent getting matched vs pugs since what patch 2.0.1?
so much crying jesus
noone is gonna reroll because of this and be set back 3 months, get real.
no people are not gonna go back to ganking lowbies after “a while”, when we get honor in bgs we don’t have to. maybe a small 0.1% acctually gets of by ganking lowbies but the majority dont.
you win/lose 99.9% of the time based on your actions and mistakes, 0.1% of the time because of racials. at the very top level.
the fact that you can even say that you are 300+ resilience above a whole other faction and that is a fair advantage is completely outrageous, any racial pales in comparison.
im really happy for this change, i could literally clean my appartment and go to the store to shop and get home before any of the queues i signed for poppped before this.
i would also be ok with free faction change, i like alliance models and racials alot better personally, i would go for a night elf for shadowmeld alone, but my entire guild and all my friends are horde, none of us really pvpd much in classic classic, we went horde because the majority liked the faction as a whole better.
i would be ok with long queues are long as honor gains are increased exponentially aswell.
but a change was needed, and its not because a “small group of people” cried about it, tons and tons of people have been complaining about the bg queues for months.
and this is the change, be happy blizzard listens at all.
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Nobody gives a fk about racials dude. Horde already had bigger community and since the last reason that held back ppl from playing horde is gone, its going to attract even more ppl. Give me a reason to play alliance srsly? Whoever rolls horde has a much easier time finding players either for pve or pvp now, and theres no drawback to this.
It’s barely been a month since TBC Launched, How would they be 3 months behind.
Good change over all
Ok after 18 hours of Battleground since the fix, I admit this change is very welcome. The pace of the game feel way better. 1h30 queue time was unacceptable and can lead to player just “give up” not because they don’t like the game, but because the game prevent them to play. Now, everything is fluid.
Bonus for Alliance, all zone are less crowded, that mean less ganking, less contention on farming spot, less 3vs1, less summon stones gank, and PvP player that don’t camp lower level because they are all in battlegrounds now 
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What you can do Blizzard now is offer faction transfert from Horde side to Alliance side on all realms where Horde dominate ? Would be nice for our fellow blue player.
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Please do something else than masks I want to see my helmet while I play.
Would be nice if you could explain to me why anyone should take it? People don‘t change faction solely based on compassion. Especially when social structures anchor them.
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Because I was 100% serious and all of it is 100% true, and I was literally answering YOUR questions about my experience. lol. If you still think it’s impossible then tell us how. The last time you tried to prove it ended with you asking nonsense questions about my experience.
I already explained that you can’t assume that the whole horde and alliance player base are doing BGs. The premade/pug ratio is what matters (no, I don’t have any metrics of it, but we can’t just use the wrong metric because of that). If you’re too stupid or stubborn to even consider that, then there’s no point even talking to you. Actually, I don’t want to talk to you at all because talking to you sucks.
After I made the comment above was the point when you suddenly didn’t want to talk about maths anymore. You’re the one claiming to have the facts and the proof so now go on, show us your math proof that my (and others) experience with facing mostly premades in horde pugs was “mathematically impossible”. Otherwise we are done.
If they remove racial in arena, or if they provide the ability to change your racial on a NPC (cost 50g like a respec), maybe this will be enough. I know plenty of players that are Horde but want to go Alliance, but they can’t, because that mean losing everything they made on their realms.
The 2 best PvE guilds in the world are Alliance for example (Progress & Tribe). There’s an incentive obviously if you want to join them, you need to be ally …