This is possibly the bigger reason why I don’t RP my Vulpera as much as I’d like to.
It just gets so damn draining and demotivating constantly hearing this even if I just ignore it like I usually do.
Also it’s as if these lot forgot Tauren and Druids have existed since classic…
When vulpera first came out and I was maining one in RP, I think one of the main things I was yearning for more was to be challenged. Hated. To me being a scrapper thief should feel like every action is scrutinised, constantly mocked.
And shout out for Painted Shields at the time for providing a lot of it, it was fantastic.
People seem to be less patronising of the 8’ tall cow people with arms like girders, I wonder why 
They’re still equally as ‘furry’ a race, though. So a pox on the hypocrites.
I’d say that TWW is a very unique expansion in this regard. Expansions usually take a long time to develop while patches can take merely months (9.1 was apparently only developed after Slands launch, for example). Metzen outright told us that by the time he came, it was already in development.
It wouldn’t surprise me if original idea of TWW was to open up new sections of Coreway and end with the big forge thingy at the core of Azeroth in 11.2. But, with change in leadership, the patches we possible to craft according to Metzen’s vision, which seems to be all about exploring known locations we haven’t seen yet and returning to old areas rather than completely new zones.
As such, I doubt QT will just be finished in 12.0, although I suspect we will be returning to draenei islands in one of Midnight patches too.
That’s the weird thing - people don’t seem to view tauren as a furry race for some reason despite the fact they are literally the beefiest of the furry races, pun fully and unapologetically intended.
It’s not as if tauren are any more or less silly than the other furry races - minotaurs following Native American culture (sometimes a little too closely admittedly) is just as silly as “werewolves but Bri’ish” or “tiny fox people that fight snake people”, the only difference is that they’ve been around since Classic and, as we all know, Classic WoW is perfect and modern WoW is terrible.
tbh I think it’s because historically furrys have been obsessed with foxes and wolves so if your main exposure to furrys is occasionally seeing somewhat offputting art on the internet you will generally associate foxes and wolves with them more than cow people
Undermine(d) is a test-run for this.
11.1 is an absolute love letter to goblins and everything that goblins are about, while also presenting them as a multifaceted people who aren’t universally greedy temporarily-embarrassed-oligarchs. If there is any time in the history of the game when goblin RP should see a boost, it’s with the release of 11.1.
So, let’s see if the Horde gets more goblin RP with 11.1 and let’s see if it’s still around when 11.2 comes out. If the answer is yes, then I’d say that there’s hope for Quel’thalas and the blood elves.
Though this does depend on others factors, such as how much Midnight actually focuses on blood elves. If it’s supposed to end with the reunification of all of the “elven tribes,” then there’s a good chance that blood elves will be as important to Midnight as earthen are to the War Within - relevant for one or two zones, but ultimately not the focus of the expansion.
A theory going around at the moment is that the War Within was completely reorganised when Metzen went back to Blizzard, like Syelia said. When he took control of WoW’s narrative from Danuser, it’s possible that he condensed everything that Danuser had been working on into 11.0, to get it out of the way as quickly as possible, so he could begin work on his own projects rather than focus on the legacy of his predecessor.
So the weird, rushed story of 11.0 is unlikely to ever happen again, as it is probably everything that Danuser had planned for the entire expansion condensed into a single patch.
Well, I hope you are right. It really felt like the expansion is over in a single patch and everything resolved too quickly and hastily.
For Vulps, at least, Blizzard clearly and regularly infantilise small races. We see it both with more recent vulpera NPCs and with a whole slew of gnomes over the years (but especially Chromie most recently - yes she counts).
The portrayal of vulpera/pandaren cuteness is markedly different to tauren ‘cuteness’, and since Blizz do that, it’s not surprising that RPers end up reflecting it in turn.
Well, the loudest piece of criticism launched at Dragonflight as an expansion was that its narrative just didn’t feel like Warcraft, and the same guy who wrote that was also responsible for overseeing the narrative of Shadowlands, which was an even bigger narrative flop, on top of being a flop in other ways.
If you were replacing this guy who is infamous for taking the game’s narrative in the wrong direction, I imagine that you would be pretty eager to move on from his work, but you couldn’t just scrap all of the work he did on an expansion that’s already a year into development, as that would leave you with nothing. The only solution would be to just get it all out of the way as quickly as possible, so you can focus on returning to the roots of what makes Warcraft Warcraft.
I personally disagree with the vocal group that declared that Dragonflight was too soft and gentle and didn’t feel Warcraft enough, but there’s no denying that Blizzard acted on their feedback, what with their axing of Danuser and Golden.
100%, because we see the same in the Majordomo Vulpera of the Red Dragonflight
Hey. Don’t you go putting cuteness in quotation marks. The highland cattle fringe is the cutest hairstyle option on all of Azeroth bar none and I will be physically violent with anyone who disagrees.
If people are reading Selistra as ‘cutesy’ I personally think they need their heads examining…
100% on Chromie, though, of all the Alliance Races (and I say this as a Legion Nelf main) Gnomes have consistently, repeatedly and unfairly got the sticky end of the stick.
Oh wait, sorry, time for our Corpo Mandated whacky-zany animinaniacs Funny™ section, ohoho~
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I think to me it boils down to the notion of visages and what they’re apparently used for. Which is sort of expression of ones identity or etc. And to me that seems off. Ultimately these characters are and should be dragons first.
All the visage examples in the past are dragons not going for haha i want to be a funny gnome or vulpera, but blending into whatever culture they’re with.
Dragonflight, did not, in my opinion, treat its dragons like dragons. But instead like vulpera, elves, gnomes, who turn into dragons when they get mad 
I mean, given how much damn time the Aspects spend/spent in Visage form, in their own homeland is… yeah. I can’t disagree.
Blizz are just cowards at making non-humanoids more emotive, I guess/IMO
“Yes, Malfurion Stormrage, I am a dragon. A red dragon, to be precise. Long have I worn the form of one mortal creature or another, however, for it has been my choice to walk among you, teaching and learning as I strive for peace among all of us.”
— Korialstrasz
Selistra wishes they had the energy of Korialstrasz. My Man used his deceptions to get the job done for his Dragonflight. Nothing but respect for the MVP. 
This is my theory why most of the cinematics had them in their visages, but then I look at the Alexstrasza vs Razsageth cutscene and raise an eyebrow.
Not just Korialstrasz (RIP) but most non-Aspect dragons… Onyxia, Nefarian and Sabellian in TBC to name some others.
A lack of this is a good part of why I eventually just sort of dropped my void elf, I wasn’t rlly too interested in just being readily accepted etcetera while being a blatantly horrible shadow creatura. (Not saying there was none of it, but it was few and far between)
It’s almost like one has roots in old mythology and maintained a pretty steady and serious vibe throughout their first decade and change of existence whereas vulpera were just kind of out of nowhere and immediately went with the dolly and dot are my best friends!!! baby uwu stuff
There isn’t really any hypocrisy involved as much as it’s an easy thing to point the finger at, the issue is Blizzard completely fumbling the tone for Vulpera and having continued to fumble it ever since.
Also what Jenit said 100%
It’s not impossible.
The biggest problem with Blood Elf role-play, in my opinion, is how wishy-washy the handling of the race has been over the years. They were introduced as a particular thing, rapidly changed from that ‘vibe’ in the course of the same expansion that they were introduced in and then anyone who still liked and portrayed that original vibe ended up being treated as ‘weird’ for not being wholly on board with the idea of basically just playing a High Elf who happened to be in the Horde rather than the Alliance.
I am not surprised that there was a major ‘drain’ on the faction, because even in the golden era of Blood Elf role-play a lot of individuals were trying to claim that their Blood Elf was actually a High Elf who had permission to wander Silvermoon at will whilst tutting and sneering at any Blood Elf who wasn’t begging to rejoin the very same faction that betrayed them.
The other issue is that Blood Elves haven’t had any real direct focus since Legion even though they tie quite readily into many aspects of the setting due to their history.
The salt in the wound was the introduction of Void Elves with…the exact same concept, almost, that the Blood Elves had originally but this time, despite using a power arguably just as dangerous or even more so than fel, they were welcomed into the Alliance with open arms.
I do think Midnight will ignite more interest in people choosing to play one though things will definitely still be skewed towards Void Elves (especially those portrayed as High Elves).
Ironically I think it’d be a re-ignition of the faction conflict that would probably encourage more engagement but those days are seemingly over now and don’t fit with the reunion angle.
Yep, pretty much my thoughts exactly, as well as my personal fears. In the end of the day, people are free to RP what they want, but it’s really sad for a race that has been so important for WoW and was thriving in the past to fall like this.