I’m not sweating , but swearing, and angry’s not good for playing. You are a spoilsport. I just hope you get a holiday.
How can you say what’s objectively better - apart from banning all bots etc off course - we play this game in as many different ways as there’s players.
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The new player experience is better - new players don’t have the knowledge to bypass the game and rely on older players to guide them
Lower level areas are more dead than usual, making the game basically a bad RPG with disjointed, boring quests.
The gold being used to pay for these usually comes from RMT. “I don’t use RMT, i use GDKP”. Well GDKP money comes from RMT as well - just with extra steps. And RMT is powered by botting. Botting hurts the game and diminishes the value of the time spent in-game by normal players. So Boost = Botting if you want to shortcut that thought process.
More than anything, the only thing that has value in a game like WoW is the time spent playing it, since everything else is transient. “Skipping” the game to get to the “good stuff” is an attitude that under-pinned retail, where anything that isn’t end-game raiding or mythic keystones offers little to no reward and has almost sunk the game at this point.
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hHow many new players do WoW have? Really?
YES!
WoW Classic brought in new players who never played WoW before. more so than retail, because classic was a BIG streamer game.
The attitude of the player base was highly influenced by private server content however, so i feel like it set a lot of people up for disappointment.
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I think you’re rigth in this, I met some new players in Classic, but I have met only one or two in TBCC. And Yes, streamers and Pserver players changed the game. Did you play duiring BlizzCon? I did and this was the best fun Iv’e had in years, almost like Vanilla.
But I think there’s not many more new out there waiting to join now, so we should not primarily think of these hypothetical players, but of how we, stayers, could have good times still.
PS:
Making a “start here” server for newbies, learning and trying together like we did in Vanilla would have been great, but impossible (not least bc of Wowhead and Co.)
There are no new players playing this game 
you mean mmo right? it’s an rpg regardless of how many people play.
stop being a clown your trying to complain about something that cant be fixed.
MoP allowed a lot of skipping but was by far the best expansion.
They banned boosting and it’s gone. Deal with it.
Most people hide their vacuous opining behind some modicum of logical argument but you’ve went straight to the “insult the person, don’t debate the position”.
Thanks for you opinion - but you 90 IQ Alsatian dog levels of debate will win no one around - and since you’re in the minority that’s a problem. For you.
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its not gone, you can still do every boost there was before. It will just cost more to buy.
Where did i insult you? you are trying to argue about a problem that cant be fixed and if you try to fix it you ruin the game so just accept the player base doesnt want to play the game how you want them to play it.
You can’t gaslight on written text forums. Calling someone a clown is an insult. The idea being to make people think their position is obviously farcical or comedic.
You got to try harder than this dude, otherwise you’ll never trick someone into a relationship. Number 1 rule of lying is remember your lie. Number 2 rule is don’t leave hard evidence of a lie!
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You’ve said 2 things that are opposite. Either we can say what’s objectively better, or we can’t.
I agree, the game WOULD be better without bots. But why would it be better without bots, but NOT better with/without X/Y/Z.
The reality is it’s all subjective, but a baseline of why or why not something is good or bad needs to be consistent. Why is banning bots good but banning GDKP bad? Lay out the same logic between both arguments and see if they fit.
The reality is most people just have opinions without any real logical consistency as to why they have them, and their forums posts are just rhetoric built on confirmation bias to justify their decision.
Caught 
But botting etc. are so to say extraneous things, not how to play … if you get what I mean.
And yes I think banning bots, RMT … all things coming in fro outside of the game would be a good thing. But banning GDKP - well first of all I think banning would not be the rigth word, because … you would punish people for doing something inside the game, within the rules. I see these two things, banning things coming from outside, but allowing things within the universe of the game as fairly consistent and logical. Not that I would like to participte in GDKP runs (and I haven’t that kind of money, not by fair means, nor by foul ), but I know people in game have fun making money in-game - and this is a way to use those. And the last is probavbly also an answer as to why the game would be better without bots and RMT (they are interdependent) but not intrinsically better without GDKPs
This is a bit meandering- feel free to ask if unclear, I’m suffering from a migraine and loose the big view of sentences 
EDIT for typos.
I’m not disagreeing with anything you’re saying - it’s just most discussions end up at a stand-still if we assume it’s obvious why something is good or bad.
If you ask someone who earns a living and feeds their family through botting whether or not botting is good… i think they’d be OK with botting.
Everyone is coming at these topics from a different perspective - so never assume everyone has the same experience as yourself.
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No, I don’t; but I assume that we here in the forums are disussing the game from a player’s point of view. If I should take care of Blizz’s employees’ pov, botters’ pov etc etc, I’d never end.
I didn’t say you should care about their POV - cause they might be an idiot
I just try phrase arguments in a way where it’s not opinion vs opinion… instead I try to make it logic vs logic.
I think this is a circular argument. You say use logic, I use logic (btw, I think I mostly always do), then you say … but botters would not agree … then I try to establish common ground (players) then you again say use logic. I can’t follow this.
Arguing logically demands a common ground: We’re all players,
A clear problem: Why is A bad and B not (for instance)
Arguments like: A is bad because X, Y an Z. B is not for NNN reasons.
Counterargument like: No A is good because H, K or L
not sideways arguments like: But CS:GO players would find X and Y totally fine.
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