Gamer elitism and Your experience with it

Just going over my experiences in World of Warcraft; I don’t think elitism is especially prevalent when it comes to the game-play itself. You get people who will kick you from a random, or a pug, because your DPS is too low or you don’t understand tactics, but I don’t view this as elitism. I view this as ‘I’m trying to save the group some time’, etc.

There are most definitely elements of elitism in the role-playing community, which ranges from those who are very text heavy, in-depth and lore-friendly with their characters to those who just role-play in Goldshire, cyber or play self-inserts that are designed to get married and knocked up. You will often see things like ‘don’t role-play with this group or individual because of x amount of reasons’.

I’ll play with or help out anyone, if it serves my own interests and progression. It’s that simple!

It’s not why I’m better, it’s why you’re inferior, get it?

You can’t say you are better in m+ because you did m15 and i didn’t just because i couldn’t have even try so i don’t know if i’ am able to handle it for example. You can say who’s better just by dueling or playing arenas though :slight_smile:

yeah I guess astronauts arent better that me at being astronauts because I havent tried yet :joy:

class difference, spec difference, RNG of items and stats, gear difference. :joy:

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How can someone be better astronaut? :smiley: What is the factor there?

With effort and strat everything can be done here :smiley:

people who think that addon use makes them a better player.

people who don’t bother to say hello in a pug, I view that as the most unpleasant thing about elitism.

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Isn’t he asking for your definition. That’s the point.

In my opinion an elitist is someone who consider themselves above you, and because of that elevation has the right to name-call you and look down on you because you’re not as good as they think they are themselves.

I’ve experienced it a few times. An interesting observation is that elitist behaviour seems to have escalated over the years, largely because raiding has become a lot more available than it was before. A lot of players consider themselves “elite” because they’re raiding. And of those, some aren’t shy of telling how awesome they are in comparison to you.

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TBH that all competition aspect, logs/parses/statistics/world fist are making it harder to not be selfish elitist.

heard you got outdpsed in dungeon by a frost DK (3rd worst spec) -__0 I’d be improving instead of posting here smh

It just depends on the person. I find it pretty easy to adjust outside of mythic raids where people will be doing a lot less dps or whatever because I don’t expect many people to actually be doing all that much high end content.

The only thing I struggle with sometimes is people not interrupting much when I’m pugging dungeons or raids on any character but I try to say nothing of it, or ask politely for people to try and interrupt more :stuck_out_tongue:

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Considering these specifics, in general the people that write condensentingly about gamers through journalism. The types that would have you believe BF5 failed because gamers refuse to support products that empower women and minorities while actually it was EAs standoffish “dont buy it then” behaviour
The same journalists that call gamers that dislike MX entitled because the gaming industries that keep pumping out record revenue out of record revenue apparently need it to fund their game
The same people that call male gamers backwards if they dont get New Dawn even tho the marketing of that game screams “the target audiance is women” (and there is nothing wrong with that) and generally the people that tried to introduce SJW rethoric into the communities. Not the games, make a progressive game if you want, but stop trying to shoehorn it on the communities

All in all Social media is poison, ESP when you combine it with the gaming industry

Imho the gaming industry is sick and while Social media may play a part all of this is self inflicted and has nothing to do with elitist gamers

Sorry if I sound standoffish, I’m pretty opinionated on this topic

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No, I am not offended by them, I just think they’re jerks.

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I think this is definitely where definitions vary. To me an elistist is someone who is so up themselves and thinks they are better than everyone else. They aren’t someone to strive to be like. They look down on others.

People who raid mythic often get this kind of reputation but I have actually met some of the nicest most helpful mythic raiders because at the end of the day they are just players. Some are nice, some are not.

When I first started to play the game back in TBC I came across a lot of nasty elitist behaviour when dealing with other players. To the point I just played alone. People being judgemental and nasty instead of helpful to someone who is new. I was mocked and told to go play another game, all because I was learning and it was my first character in WoW. Was I a complete clueless noob, of course! Did I deserve to be treated like something someone had just stepped in, not in any way shape or form!

Even my first guild wasn’t that friendly a place, they all had cliques where people went off and did stuff and often the response to questions was L2P etc.

It’s a miracle I stuck with the game tbh but I loved the things I could do on my own, questing, exploring zones, and even if I had to go back and do dungeons when I outlevelled them at least I got to see them.

Ironically in a game that is reknowned for it’s toxic community, I got more help when trying to play LoL from other players than I have had in WoW. I was shouted at in a game something along the lines WTF are you doing. I apologised saying I was new and had no idea. For the rest of the match that person explained everything going on.

As a result of the horrible treatment I got in WoW trying to the learn the game I always try to be helpful to new players in guild or if you come across them in the wow world.

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The OP assumes we all have the same definition of elitism.

OP needs to establish what elitism is or all the answers that follow are pretty useless.

I disagree, it’s asking what you think. Your definition.

It’s like when people go on about others being toxic. One person thinks being removed from a group is toxic and others think when someone non stop abuses you calling you names is toxic.

I just see this as asking you what you think is elitist and how that has affected you.

Well if he is I hope his dissertation is clearer.

He will need to define what elitism is in any case as its a construct that we all have differing views on.

:thinking:

Them being jerks, is you being offended, isn’t it?

I just want to say I joined this community a while back and it is amazing.

I never thought I would be running mythic keys myself due to severe anxienty and fear of messing up but since I joined the Scared of Dungeons I have joined in on a few keys and it have all been very fun and everyone is helpful and nice.

Might be worth looking into @Huntertone :slight_smile:

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Elite = do the hardest content.

Elitist = someone who thinks they’re more important to the game because they do the hardest content.

So, an example of an Elitist would be someone who moans about “free” high ilvl gear being worn by a player at 385 ilvl overall when their own overall ilvl is 405 from harder content.

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