GCD on everything positivity?

I don’t agree, but you do know most specs have 4 rotational buttons anyway right now, right?

That’s why i say you seem salty.

strawman again.

That was badly worded, my bad, what i meant was that the changes that happened with bfa made them easier and that reverting them wouldn’t make them easier.

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Its called realistic or not biased.

Rofl, sure xD

yup, thank you for not making any valid point, I guess we’re done here.

We are done since the first reply i gave you, but you didnt realize it xD

I mean if you didn’t want to make any point, you could just not have responded, you know that don’t you?

I didnt make any point to you, you also failed to convince me you want the GCD off to help your hard rotation(lol) as well and in generally you tend sometimes to make zero point in general.

Now you found something else to argue about since you understood that you wont change my opinion?

The gcd change is a healthy change.

It’s something good and something that should be in the game.

BUT, the way blizzard executed it is wrong, they know this and they are trying to fix it.

I don’t want to go back to one shot macros, and I certainly don’t want to go back to a time where a macro does everything for me.

If anything, despite the horrendous class designs in BFA, PvP has become much more enjoyable mechanically.

Blizzard is on the right track here, they should keep the GCD change but adjust it properly and implement it where it is needed.

I mean, I’m not really trying to change your position, I write in hope that someone at blizzzard sees this and changes his opinion. Also There isn’t a single hard rotation in wow, we already went over this didn’t we?

You seem to say this like knowing that ones opinion is set in stone is a good thing, Fyi being called hardheaded is not a compliment.

Did you even think that through? If the intention is to simply stop you from chaining spells inside macros then add a TINY GCD, say 100ms, so that a macro cannot contain more than one spell (with the usual exceptions of course). They do NOT need a 1000ms GCD to prevent spell chaining. Doh! Actually they do not even need to do that. It is their game engine, their macros. They can stop you from chaining spells in macros in a million other ways.

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Imo it heavily depends on the context and I actually agree with something Morgan day said : If you need 4 or more CDs to start your rotation then maybe the issue was to have 4 or more offensive CDs in the first place more than having them on the GCD. Either mix some together to make a more interesting ability or turn some into passives, if all it brings is a dmg buff then it won’t be missed.

Having every offensive CD on the GCD as long as pressing them actually do something is better than having them off the GCD. The resto druid CD seems to work pretty well with its burst AOE heal when you press it, I’d rather have more of this than go back to full off GCD.

Personal defensive CDs should be off the GCD imo, and so does SOME of the mobility CDs. and by that i mean either “oups” buttons or aggressive CDs like shadowstep or the warrior charge. The idea is that you won’t see a dh dash everywhere in the middle of its rotation but still be able to use your defensive or mobility CD if you messed up. Makes the gameplay more fluid and is noob friendly, don’t think anyone would have an issue with that.

I really disliked the GCD for fury in BFA. You have a short burst window for recklessness, made even shorter with BotE, may want to use siegebreaker on your main target beforehand, start the aoe burst with enrage and yet spend most of your burst window using bladestorm… So 3 buffs only to bladestorm around your target. Lots of dmg sure but that’s not what i appreciate about fury.

Doesn’t fit the berserker fantasy imo to plan for nearly 6 sec only to use one spell and go afk.

But on the other hand i don’t want these CDs to be off the GCD and call it a day, that’s just lazy. I would rather have this whole “plan your burst window and then you can actually play your berserker” removed or reworked because it negatively impact the fast paced gameplay i appreciate from fury. I know BotE will be removed but for the rest just keep recklessness and add siegebreaker as a passive talent with something like

“After using raging blow 5 times (no time limit, just an infinite buff counter like the BotE passive), your next Rampage will deal X bonus dmg and increase the dmg your target receive by 15% for 10s” (that’s what siegebreaker currently do fyi)

You can still plan for your burst phase but there’s no RNG nor GCD involved. You just play your fury warrior and it may actually change your rotation depending on when you want to proc the buff.

They already stated its here to stay…

Indeed, but there are the easier ones like yours.

So im hardheaded because i dont bow down to your will, while you are not hard headed that you dont listen to logic and facts of WHY it was implemented?
You really are a special snowflake lol

Then change the spelque and make macros again? Do you know what that is?
Its not me who said the GCD change is to prevent people from binding 5 abilities to one key, blizzard themselves said this. I said i did it back then.

They stated a lot of things and then did the opposite so it’s not really that farfetched, improbable? yup, impossible? nope.

and?

It’s Always funny to hear fact, logic and snowflake near each other, these words have really lost their meaning. Anyway, you haven’t given me facts nor logic, at least not much of it, you said why they implemented something, I said that their “solution” creates a lot of problems, then you ramble about how easy hunter is and that i want 1 key dps macros (all of this are false accusations). There are way better solutions that don’t require the omogenization of pacing between spec or impact those that had nothing to macro to begin with. They saw a pimple and decided to squeeze everything instead of focusing on it.

Good keep trying to convince them. THEM.
You wont convince me :slight_smile:

You called me hardheaded because i have to be convinced by your non existent facts, that makes you a special snowflake if you think that everyone who dares to have a different opinion is hardheaded.

I’m not a fan of bringing the game back to what it was in Legion because I think WoW right now is too fast. I agree with the people saying having to cast 4 buffs that are all on the GCD before being able to use your damaging spells is a problem. But I think the problem is having to cast 4 buffs period. With or without GCD. Without the GCD, you’ll just macro them to one key… so just make it so classes have to cast one buff. If we want classes to rotate buffs on cooldowns (so let’s say you have 4 buff skills, but each has 1 min cd, you only use one at a time) make buffs cancel each other. This will solve a lot of the boring gameplay. Or if not that, just merge all buffs into one megabuff skill, as that is what players are going to do anyway.

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You need to learn it doesn’t matter what the players think or say.

Blizzard have an internal “picture” of what they want. It doesn’t matter if anyone else wants that picture, or if they will even achieve it.

They admitted to doing this with Azerite gear in BFA.
And they absolutely do it with class design, raiding, PVP, etc etc.

They think GCD means meaningful choice, but all it does is restrict you.
Casuals hate it.
Top end players hate it.
Literally no reason for the GCD issues to exist.

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Stop trying to put things in my mouth, I haven’t said any of that.
I’ve explained my opinion, you can do what you want with it, also it would do you good to stop using buzzwords like snowflake, it really doesn’t do you any favours.

im in favor of GCD and im also not in favor of GCD
they already said they will adress specs individualy to see what should remain and what not.
the new frost DK talent in alfa says on the tool tip the CD is on on GCD, going to assume many other specs will be adressed.

they agreed they went to over board but they also dont want it to go back to the original problem

It is not black and white. You can have a SMALL GCD that will prevent too many spells inside macros, and still be small enough that will not feel that the game is artificially slowing you down. Eg a GCD of 100ms.

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You explain your opinion to me for 20 replies now?

When you call me hardheaded because i dont change my opinions to match yours… I will keep calling you special snowflake because you obviously are.

If you cant handle people having different opinions from yours you better get out of the forums.

ESO has that horrible idea implemented and not 100ms, 250ms actually.
People are running up and down using 1 key macro from applications that can actually press the button after the delay.

In wow you wont need an application since SPELLQUE can fix that for you.

That’s not why i called you that, i did it because the way you wrote made it seem like you would never change your opinion on this matter, not because i couldn’t change it. If that isn’t the case then i assumed too much and I apologize

but I’d expect you to do the same, I see a lot of assuming here too :hugs: