But you only need one person the the guild to get it.
and the crafted gear is just as good as the raid gear right ? including all the super OP trinkets and special weapons they added
well, as a tank and as far i could craft in the beta, there are some items that are quite strong on paper and logs.
The shield with the versa proc is nice AF, alchm trinkets hav been always cool to hav in at S1of each expansion⌠and not forget to mention te necklace of jewl, wich u can socket up to 3 gems depending on the quiality.
And of top of that there are some items u can add to the craft to add passives to the gear.
Maybe not perfect but FAR better that the crafting we hav right now.
At the end all will be tunning that tell us if is worth, RN yes it is
Keep group loot out of LFR for the love of god, thanks.
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well i mean if what your saying is true its going to play again blizzard regulations ( which is forcing ppl to do the raid no matter what ) so my guess is they will end up nerfing them to the point where they become so insignificant .
i mean im a main tank and hearing this makes me joy cause i can just boost and buy my stuff with gold which is totally fine but i know it wont last like this . most likely
beside i dont even know how many of these crafted gears you can wear ⌠its not really something you can rely on
Actually, in order to craft the high itlvl gear, u hav to provide mats that will be only dropped in higher difficults.
And from the max items equiped the number is 5, counting as 2 items the 2hand weapons.
well i mean this is fine right ? cause the profession guy can provide them if he has done the raid at a higher difficulty and charge ppl money for it , and it would be even better if you could get it from high m+ but idk much about it .
5 equip is also very nice ! but again it feels so good that i doubt it will make it to live , it will play againts the force raiding policy and if this goes live alot of ppl wont raid anymore ( for obvious reasons ) and they just buy their gear with gold , which is totally ok for someone like me .
no no, the person who wants the item has to provide it cos is bound to the pj.
the crafter can only provide the common mats, like bars or ores.
that mean for example you are not lucky with the raid drop that week, but instead get mats to order an item craft of your desire (stats, passives, qualityâŚ)
well i mean thats still good news , i take it
Itâs fine guys, just learn to raid-lead.
Make your own group, and make sure you are the only player with your armor type.
Lets say you play warrior, dont bring any other plate classes and you by default get all plate drops.
US forum had some great insights :
As many in this thread have speculated, all players in Personal Loot were constantly ârollingâ behind the scenes, whether you wanted to or not. Itâs not as simple as âwith group loot youâre rolling against everyone, but in personal loot youâre rolling against fewerâ. Changing to Group Loot for raids makes the process of loot acquisition and distribution more transparent and gives players more freedom to trade loot around and allocate it socially if they choose to do so
Its a good pointe.
yep thats the plan .
Blizzard Wont learn. Its gonna end up in drama and more toxic commity than its already.
Personal loot was good not perfeckt.
Protection was good and i was fine with that atleast i was.
But minorty aka Mythic E sports players well want more control there fore we all shut pay.
Reality Personal was added cuze other loot systems where wurse now u can just go with 4 plate frends need and distrybute the loot among ur gruop.
Considering i see a near endles abuse comming we and and poeple warnd for.
I Kinda see like this Blizzard wants issus they get issus.
This gruop loot in LFR and Raids is gonna be a issu they know it else added it in 5 man already.
Reality is Just complain endles soon its uot and It gets removed prably.
I agree personal not the best but it was safe and gave safty.
Gruop loot removes safty.
and we get The GF of Guildmaster Guild X has prio overloot.
If u dont obay guild kick.
Ether way Blizzard ITs silly and stupid.
Which is a non issue with group Loot?
Because you either roll or you donât. There is no master loot.
As for LFR likely only those for which the items are an upgrade might be able to rollâŚ
Therefore it canât be taken away by someone with higher Iâll.
Personal loot is fine if u ask me but hey.
Gruop loot was removed for safty for players And ML.
Now we go back to well zero.
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I hadnât considered LFR, I presume they will be getting it too.
I will have to go on low geared alts to collect transmog now though 
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Maybe it is doable by equipping low ilvl on mains 
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Itâs going to be fun when your bis trinket drops in raid and you canât roll need because you have some trash higher ilvl trinket in that slot though.
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Yes. That is a worry too. Allthough this GL thing instant removed my considerations of going back to raiding anyway (i skipped s3 SL), outside of some LFRâs. And since my guild is not good enough to get raids on farm anymore since SL with the difficulty step up, i never get that bis trinket anyway.
Blizz is doing a very good job in killing raidsâŚ
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Personal loot was not fine if you ask me.
Both loot systems had their drawbacks, and both systems got abused.
Personal loot allowed 5 friends to join any raid and share loot between them. Also a lot of loot got disenchanted for no reason. For the first many weeks of many tiers, I at least disenchanted 30% of my drops.
People made raids class stacking like mad, only bringing overgearede players whom could trade loot they needed.
The new group loot at least fixed the above. You can only roll if itâs an upgrade. Also meaning bringing overgeared friends wonât fix your loot gainsâŚ
Both have their draw backs. But by far personal loot was easy enough to abuse in pugs, and it was hell for gear progression in guilds.
Iâm definitely going to pass on a lot of gear to avoid this. Iâm not sure, but it might be a plus in the long run. If people pass on minor upgrades to get the loot they actually want instead of needing on 0.01% upgrades with bad stats
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