Grunt for 1440p

There is nothing to set if the CPU cannot prepare 30+ FPS for the GPU to be rendered.
He has a 3570K, the same CPU i used to raid with for the last 7 years.
I can tell you, he WILL drop below 30 in raids from time to time.

Sorry but I’m not wrong, you should the read BlurBusters Gsync 101 guide (scroll to the bottom bit about minimum refresh range).
This is why it’s not possible to get G-Sync on low refresh rate monitors and it’s one of the reasons when using Freesync on some lower hz monitors with limited range can cause spikes and drop outs.

Gsync - There are simply no lower refresh rate monitors for this reason.
Freesync - There are lower refresh rate monitors, but they do not employ any frame duplication which is why their Freesync range usually bottoms out at 40fps.

You need a high refresh rate monitor for lower frame rate compensation to work, because it has to double each frame.

Therefore you could run an RX 5700XT in WoW at 1080p and still get frame drops on a Freesync monitor in raids unless your Freesync monitor supports high refresh rate, and therefore Lower Frame Rate Compensation.

Yep, and to be honest this will only be in a raidfinder knowing her. If we did ever raid it would be casual 10 mans. If any of you guys know most (not all) girls who play games they really don’t tend to notice/nor care so much about frame drops quite the same as we do. She is pretty content right now but I want to surprise her!

I get the CPU is old, but it’s still a great CPU and its overclocked too. You only had to look at how long people were able to use Sandy Bridge CPUs like the i5 2500k to know how long a CPU can be viable.

I think you are vastly underestimating your old CPU, it performs better still in games than the first Ryzen processors like the R7 1700 and seems more similar to a Ryzen 5 2600 today.
Just look at the it beat it in frame rate in this test:

There’s no doubt an older CPU with less cores and an older architecture is going to suffer more from frame drops in intense CPU situations, that is one of the reasons the new R7 Ryzens are so good for gaming compared to the cheaper models in CPU bound games, but wow, whilst being dependant a lot of IPC performance does not fill cores and utilization quite the same as some modern AAA titles.

If I can buy a CPU today that matches its performance in games for around £100 then I don’t think it is really that bad. Especially at higher resolution when more emphasis is placed on graphics than CPU.

I’ve watched this guys videos (he’s the only one that seems to bench wow right now) so I see the value with CPUs, but this is testing taking away any GPU bottleneck completely, making the disparity in results larger than they will be for me with a worse graphics card.

I have been raiding with this CPU for the last 7 years, i know how it performs and i was not satisfied anymore.
I prefer raiding closer to 60 than to 30 FPS.
It was a long and good ride though, but all good things come to an end :stuck_out_tongue:

Also in more modern games, 4 cores just don’t cut it anymore.
Even 6 is not good enough.
8 is fine but with the upcoming consoles with Ryzen CPUs and 16 threads we will see more and more games with better utilization of more than 8 cores.

Your example with The Divison 1 is not a good one because the game is heavily GPU limited, not so much CPU.
I mean even in Witcher 3 you cannot get 60 FPS on high settings with a 4 core CPU in cities like Novigrad.

Just an update. I decided to take on board everyone’s good advice and found a used RTX 2080 for $500.

It was way beyond what I wanted to spend, and it was a hard decision with the 2070 Super being similar in price and only being slightly slower.

Refurbs for the 2070 super tended to be around the same price, maybe a little more and at most come with 90 day warranties. Used 2070 Supers fetch a lot more, I guess because they are younger.

The model I went for was the EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 XC2 Ultra Gaming which at $500 I am very happy with. It has 2 year warranty left instead of a refurb 90 days and I know EVGA are good with warranty transfer for second hand products. The fact the card was selling for $850 just over a year ago was the cherry on the cake for me, it’s not the most premium 2080, but it’s still decent.

As for the performance in her system, well she gets a constantly above 150fps when questing in BFA Zones. I’ve been using her system to test some raids today and FPS rarely drops beneath 60.

Boralus is the main FPS killer where the CPU really becomes a bottleneck, but generally it holds out pretty well.

I can imagine how many more FPS she would get with an updated CPU too, so will replace that as soon as I can. The new 1600AF with Ryzen 2600 performance is particularly compelling given its low price tag!

If it helps someone else in a similar position here’s some graphs I made, two raid runs in the latest raidfinder wing as a Tank and it’s not bad at all. The frame spike in the graph was down to an addon I was using and doesn’t happen with addons disabled!

There’s also a short graph of boralus showing the CPU bottleneck.
(click on the picture for all 3 graphs, remove the space)
imgur. com/a/Xq3kCd9

All in all the I5 3570k clocked at 4.4 holds out pretty well and she is more than pleased with the performance. There’s no doubt there’s a lot more performance to be unlocked in the future too!

At what settings? I can hardly reach my 144FPS in the more dense BfA zones (settings ~9).
I was about to say there is no way she hardly drops below 60 in raids, but then i saw the img and that you are talking about LFR (which is not comparable to a real raid situation, let alone 30man heroic).

That’s good, but does she do guild raids in normal or heroic at all or only LFR?

Don’t even think about it, it’s a total waste of money and barely any upgrade over the 3570K OC in WoW.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

They are about the same IPC wise. The only upgrade will be the faster DDR4 RAM.
AMD was stuck way behind Intel in terms of IPC until recently with the Ryzen 3000.
Just compare the 2600 at ~2000 points and the 3600 at 2800, that is a big 40+% upgrade.

TLDR: The Ryzen 2600 will NOT be faster in WoW than the 3570K.

… but AM4 has a brighter future than LGA1155. :grin:

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