I found it easier to connect with people back in the days without crossrealms.
Just with doing World PvP, Battlegrounds or duels in front of Stormwind/Orgrimmar i had zero issues to find friends/groups/guilds.
But maybe i just changed too much
I found it easier to connect with people back in the days without crossrealms.
Just with doing World PvP, Battlegrounds or duels in front of Stormwind/Orgrimmar i had zero issues to find friends/groups/guilds.
But maybe i just changed too much
I feel sad reading the comments here. It makes me realise it’s probably true that the guild I’m in is one of the few ‘oldschool’ guilds left.
Bad memories.
Plus most guilds nowadays are little more than cliques.
I don’t have a guild for couple of reasons.
Bad experiences, cronyism, lack of interest in general, and no need to be a in a guild for the content I do (M+ and HC raiding).
Also all guild invites I’ve had so far were from random 700 player guild who don’t even message you before inviting, and my server is quite inactive as well so there isn’t much to choose from.
Not been in a guild since Wrath as I made the switch over to Horde some time during TBC, never raided since then so never been any need for it. Don’t have to listen to in guild squabbles, don’t have to comply with any schedules and don’t get pestered to join dungeons and raids.
Are you classed as guildless when you’re in a guild and no one comes on line for months?
My guild was formed before TBC and it survived up to SL. I know I can’t find something like that again so I don’t bother looking. Besides, I play so casually I’m really no use to a guild and I feel like I’m about to say goodbye to WoW permanently, given the direction they seem to be taking.
Well i was on a low pop server there basicly were only 2 guilds there and i was in one for a while. But at some point i left because i wanted some peace and quiet and was going to take a break soon anyway.
And well if i want to do some m+ i just ask in a community anyway. Wich basicly is the same as a guild except across all servers and minus the guild bank
I left my era guild back in September. It was the people I found myself with when Tbc launched. Mostly pve minded folks but they where good lads, no bad blood there.
I just couldn’t stand being there any longer. So I left.
Twofold reasoning.
1 I had quit raiding with them for some time before, just always been a pvp guy and less of a raider. Logs or speed runs never appealed to me.
Then over time guild chat slowly devolved into nothing but gdkp spam. To put it mildly I was not very interested in that. I have always regarded that activity to be on par with gold buying/ cheating if you will.
2 I became deeply depressed as a consequence of the events of 23 and blizzards actions towards era.
That year we saw a massive number of wrath players joining.
Leading to an insane number of bots, flyhackers, gold sellers and gdkps.
We had very little of that before. We where medium pop, few but healthy. We where still plenty for a vanilla server/community. You do not really need a ton of players to make an active vanilla server.
Then culminating it all in august, blizzard released their “honor update”, they patched vanilla. Sullied it with their filthy hands. Leading to predictable results.
They erased the ranking system. Removing all forms of competition and predictably turning 99,99% of pvp into 5 minute AV games with mostly bots.
As an unintended consequence of the same patch;
This update also erased everything I had done in the game. All of my chars pvp history and all of their lifetime hks. All I played the game for. All I had played the game for, for 4 years.
Gone just like that.
With no recourse to get it returned. Despite sitting on photo and video evidence and repeatedly attempting to display these.
Not worth the effort on blizzards part, I think that should sum it up.
Dissecting it; mostly 1 as to why im not in a guild currently.
2 primarily kept me from joining anything else since.
But yeah It is also a bit more than that.
I actually cant even make myself log in, it makes me physically ill to look at what they have done.
normally im prey of guild doin random invite. I dont raid so im totally useless but sometimes is nice ti have a brief chat with someone.
if it was a guild of cats, i mean, i like people, a lot, but they do people things…eww
I don’t like people so I made my own guild. If you want to join, that’s fine. If I enter a popularity contest, I’ll run for Miss Universe.
I’d win for sure with my masculine beard.
because I hate people
I was in a guild with a bunch of friends but said friends no longer play, so I don’t really feel like doing it all over again. I’ve done it twice already, now I don’t have, or better I don’t want, to spend time joining another group and respect raid nights every week and all the associated drama.
If my friends come back and want to do it very casually, without being forced to be there every Wednesday evening and generally taking it easy, I may join one with them again, otherwise unless a new group of friends forms, I won’t. It’s too much effort for what I feel like investing in wow right now.
I’m not in a guild on most characters, or even if I am, I don’t interact with it. Mostly because I PvP in the open world, or do Solo Queue or BG Blitz.
I’m also 32 and have a family life, where there is a certain “respect” of not sitting on Discord for hours, talking with people and ignoring what’s around me. So since most guild events like raiding “demand Discord”, or that I “reserve 3 uninterrupted hours for raiding”, I can’t do that.
I do however sometimes join a guild, just to socialize in guild chat.
Not everyone likes/loves to be part of a community or group that demands activity or contribution in some form.
Some people are simply happy to be “lone wolfs”.
Honest answer?
Most guilds are already set, they’ve got their regular groups/people and you kinda join and just don’t really do anything?
It kinda blows.
Been playing starting my 13th year now and out of that time I spent maybe 3 years (tops, but probably less than that) as a member of guilds. Putting aside “levelling” guilds, I remember fondly all of them; whether RPing with Vile Thorn and Path of Dawnchaser, world pvp with Dominion, casual raiding with Fellowship of Wanderers and rbgs with the Teaguard - some of my best memories of this game. All the people in my friendlist I have met in guilds.
But the reality is that I enjoy the solo content the most. World quests, collecting and achievement hunting, and random bgs - this is where I blow off steam when I get home. It’s what I do to relax.
I don’t necessarily avoid socializing, but I don’t need it either above what I’m already getting IRL (most of the time, anyway), so this is why I don’t join a guild as a social member. I like reading and listening to people talking about the game, hence why I’m here on this forum, follow youtube channels, read wowhead etc. But I barely actively engage.
And I don’t currently focus on any aspect of the game which would require a stable group of people. Nowadays it doesn’t help that I have much less time and that which I have is too unpredictable atm (hence why I’m writing this at almost 3am) than when I was a college student, that time is gone for good, and now I cannot promise any guild - in good concience - that I will be there two evenings a week. I don’t wanna be that guy who signes up for a scheduled event and then can’t make it.
The question rises, why do I even play when I seem apathetic to most of things wow and MMO genre is about. Despite this, I just like wow. I like the world, the story - and the fact I’m already familiar with the game after so many years playing it. The force of habit is strong. I invested so much time, effort into this account and characters that I don’t wanna just leave. But should I lose this account for whatever reason, more than likely I wouldn’t come back.
Having hobbies isn’t disrespectful of your family. Spending a few hours a couple of times a week doing something you enjoy that doesn’t involve family is healthy.
There nice to have things but notting great when you look back at the old guild perks. Hell just swap the 3 of them just for [Have Group, Will Travel] and change it to a 20 hour cooldown just for starting guild raids and not having to summon one by one. To be honest i would pretty much add them all back to the game apart from the [Cash Flow] one with there new way of think and letting go of old barriers i dont see why not to add them back.