Oh dear… You really think Argent dawn will be ignoring people for just that? The ways that would be abused are uncountable.
You can exile people. Groups and guilds can defame others by name and have them all ignored over petty disputes and disagreements.
You have been around on Argent dawn long enough… Do you really think this would only be used for trolls?
I don’t think you where that naive when you suggested this. You know exactly the power this would hold and do… And I support it I say you should get it.
Let everyone do it and see how many we all have to go around roleplaying with each other in the end.
Half the server will ignore the PCU on their ignore list. And the PCU will ignore a magnitude of the server they see fit back.
You all wont even have the option to try again with eachother this time around if what you ask for comes to fruition. You will all haphazardly ignore eachother and isolate eachother like you where eating tic tacks…
And in the end as common as this practice of just putting who ever you didn’t like for how big or small a reason become.
Everybody would suffer and have less people to rp with… I don’t think anybody wants this.
The animosity between each other. And the bubbles will just increase and get much worse… Maybe I am over dramatizing things. I hope I am wrong. But a tool like this…
Idk if its all what you guys picture it out to be.
Yeah, and I don’t think that what you say is going to happen.
GW2 has a followers tab which allows you see who has added you to their friendlist. When you remove a follower, you also remove yourself from their friendlist. But that doesn’t stop people from adding you again, and again, and again…
This. As someone who -used to be- part of a PCU guild some years back, I pretty much saw this happen. I had joined simply out of them approaching me and having fun in their events - no greater approval or disapproval of their alleged ideology attached to it.
Once we were doing social RP in a small town in Blasted Lands and saw strangers coming to the same place. Me and a guildmate back-then thought “cool, let’s go and ask what brings them there” and did just that IC. What happened was that our messages got completely ignored and when I whispered to one of them to ask, if we are disturbing an event or if we are welcome to approach, I get an automated red text saying that character X is ignoring me. I had never met any of these characters before on any of my characters and I was quite fresh addition to the PCU guild as well. So I doubt it had to do with anything else than the guild tag itself.
Although my ways have since parted with PCU as well and I still have nothing against them, it did show me how petty people can be about ignoring other players. The open world is full of roleplayers, ultimately it’s not my loss if someone judges me for the guild I’m in, whether it’s short- or long-term. But it is sad to see, by experience, how petty people can be.
I have heard a lot of negative things about PCU and doubt it came out of nowhere. But also I had nothing to do with some drama which happened years back. Hence my earlier words and concerns about “ignored by association”.
This also. And it would be awkward if you have no access to interactions in a certain RP hub because some highly influential roleplayer or any roleplayer chose to “phase you out” - and I’ll say, not all highly influential and well-liked roleplayers are good people. While there are some who certainly have earnt their standing and praise. Group exclusion already happens in larger communities but only on social level - technical level would only make it worse.
Not to mention that it complicates social situation in themselves, when there is a social gathering going on and someone whom another person has ignored joins it. People can seem like they’re talking to ghosts if someone gets phased out and it can get really confusing.
You put it all perfectly Saber. Sorry about my short reply… But you nailed it.
You said everything i would have liked to say and better. It all just sucks… And it makes Argent dawn a worse place… I wish we all didn’t have it like this. And things where this way…
Valid points, though the PCU isn’t that big, or important. They most certainly don’t cover “half the server.”
This is why no group ever should be allowed to take control of the server and roleplay.
There are some gameplay issues as well, yes. For example, unless the grouping system is refined, what will happen when it puts you in a group with someone you have ignored? You can’t heal an invisible character, after all.
Most of the issues we’re having on this server are caused by a lack of human moderators.
Maybe not. But if ignoring each other gets to become an ingame tool that makes players invisible air. And only a few people enough makes it a common practice. Sooner or later before you know it. Everybody will be doing it.
I just don’t believe the majority of Argent dawn will exercise restraint when it comes to what this can do to each other.
And the way we go about ignoring each other by association or back talking and rumor mongering either.
This can very quickly spread to hurt the server in my opinion.
Yeah, which is why I think that a guild ignore is a bad idea. Not in the last place because guilds never are an apple tree of which all the apples are rotten.
Not to mention, systematic group exclusion itself can be as harmful as verbal abuse or a punch to your face. There’s psychological research which says that our human brain interprets them all the same way and our pain receptors react. Of course, it’s different in case if you want to be part of a group/community or if they’re sort of 2nd or 3rd option for you.
And when you can utilize ignore-function as a tool of group exclusion… It just turns another form of abuse.
Not all influential and large groups are PCU tho.
I know a guild in an undefined larger community, where they’ve been socially most influential group for over five years. Majority of the larger community’s active roleplayers will come to their server-wide events and hold them in high regard. So whether they want or not, they do hold social power in the community. While these people act quite responsibly with it and I haven’t heard them to say negative things about anyone, I can imagine how different the community would be if the most influential members of the larger community were of different mindset. Some things could of course always be better, but some things could also be definitely worse.
I should point out that the PCU is bigger than it actually is. That is to say, half of Stormwind thinks the other half are PCU members (none of either half are PCU members)
In world content too, imagine doing Warmode WQs and suddenly you start getting killed by invisible enemy.
And even if the invisibility will be mutual, someone in your group can start getting killed and there´s nothing you can do about it.
And it isn´t as unlikely as people might think, I´ve seen many people during Dragonbane Keep or Tuskarr feast, and last week I even randomly grouped up with someone I know for PvP WQ through group finder.
I can’t say I have any idea how in-game stalking works, if someone is pestering you in-game, put them on ignore, if they hang around, just pretend they aren’t there, if they keep jumping onto alts, put them on ignore as well, if people whisper you incessantly, ask them to stop if they don’t, put them on ignore, this is a battle of attrition, their attention span vs your determination.
If you give in and complain, they win, if you adhere to the golden rule of not paying them any attention, you win.
I say you should get it.
I do -Not- Belong here!