Harassment, stalkers, and how the current rules and /ignore mechanics doesn't stop them. Idea bouncing on how to fix that

Is there some important post I’m missing? do I have carbon monoxide poisoning? what’s going on

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Im taking Sarvaads advice and stepping away from the keyboard… Nothing happen

Forget this interaction.

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Okay. Take care.

You can also still delete your posts, FYI. Some really vile stuff was said so might as well scrub it all clean.

What interaction?

Jokes aside we all have our heated moments or things going too far, or whatever this was - look after yourself!

vile stuff?.. really?

Fine… I don’t want beef with the wrath of Argent dawn…

R*pe is a really insensitive and vile topic, yes.

(Also getting personal with other posters is also not exactly nice)

It’s not personal mate. We’re not out here targetting you and only you - if anyone else in the thread made that same remark then that remark would similarly be called into question.

I can promise, we’re not all out to get you. Heck I think some of the people making these points might well find me irritating or worse, it’s not some sort of shadow cabal.

It was a sharp example of his point… I am hardly the first one to get personal around here like this… But fine… I wont continnue a bad and crap tradition.

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Thank you!

Have a pleasant evening, do something nice, and stay hydrated, homie :pray:

-_- Your welcome I think… I cant delete it all though… There is a limit to how many deletes on can do.

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All good, all good, all good!

What on earth did I miss in here

Just another Skullfox snaps at the forum moment. You didn’t miss out on much. Its all good. …I think

i’ll do you a solid and obliterate my quote of your post also, on the house, just this once

Why? …I didn’t delete my post cause i thought I was in the wrong. Everyone here asked me too.

Seriously leave me alone.

I don’t think Dekarn meant anything bad by it.

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Yeah it was just with the intent of not immortalizing a statement made in what seems to clearly be a heated moment.

I’m gonna drop this I think, skullfox, I don’t think you’re in a state to be using the forums.

Why would you take that away from me? Am I supposed to be ashamed of it?

For the record I as an Argent dawn player dont forgive you. You know?..

I want you all to be included… But I wont easily forget… I can’t just forgive just like that either.

What you have made our server into… What you have done.

In the case of guilds going out of their way harrassing your guild, that is entirely different case. There, the act of direct bullying is present while you’re just trying to focus on guild RP. But there are different forms of bullying, not all is direct/active but more indirect and passive. Stereotypically it can be called “mean girl group behavior” - those that ignore and exclude you without provocation, only because you don’t fit into their view (and in their opinion, only right view) of lore and are unwilling to discuss it. I hope that, while you’re driving your point forward and for a good cause, you’re also open to see the context of those who aren’t agreeing with you on everything.

Guilds going out of their way to harrass yours, nasty whispers and follow them around, those are also easier to prove. Multi accounts created with same digital footprint is easier to prove from Blizzard’s end - if they did enough groundwork and cared enough to investigate.

Not all “consider other people” is manipulative, but it can be used for manipulative ends. These things aren’t often black-and-white. And again, I don’t say this to dismiss or invalidate your concerns, what I’m trying to say is that one should look at surrounding circumstances and social dynamics of a situation, not just the argument about “consider others” before judging.
I know quite a few people in night elf community who were excluded by guilds and individuals just for daring to roleplay a lesser Wild God, never acting in powerful ways but acting like a mysterious messenger from the dream and speaking in riddles. I went to ask around why people ignored them and the answer was often as simple as “I don’t like them RPing this concept” and other petty stuff. And no, the roleplayers weren’t (as far as I understood the situation) tried to offer constructive feedback to the roleplayer of the Wild God either. Just straight up ignore and negative attitude for RPing something they didn’t like - and there, this roleplayer was expected to mindread what was wrong.

I agree with this being used as an excuse a lot. Yes, it’s a hobby, we come here to enjoy our time and enjoy fruits of our labor - in case of leading a guild or committing to it, it takes time and energy, you’ll want to have it give that back. But if your energy is spent on warding off harrassment, mean whispers, stalking etc. you won’t have fun - you’re constantly stressed and on guard.

While RP is a hobby, as an active roleplayer I know how the time spent in game can impact my mood both positively and negatively. Naturally IC interactions stay within IC among decent roleplayers and when it’s RP in good spirits, both positive and negative IC interactions result in good mood OOC. However, any communication which comes with underlying sense of OOC negative attitude towards me, gaslighting and so forth, would drain my energy equally or frustrate me. Therefore “it’s just RP” is minimizing and somewhat dismissive. However, a lot depends on the context and situation in where it’s used.

Definitely the OPs case is different from which we are worried of. And by saying that “this function can be used for abusive purposes too” we aren’t trying to invalidate you but looking at our experiences aside from yours. In your case, Blizzard should have taken action to stop this harrassment.

And I’m sorry about that they have gone through this, a hostile, abusive environment can leave scars even if it’s “just RP”. Being through any kind of abuse for months or years is horrible and shouldn’t be allowed to happen, it shouldn’t be given room to happen.

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Also, late at night with many new replies, so I may have missed something.