Agreed, and if they want to bring customers back they absolutely will need to do this. But that’s different from firing a load of people while morale is already rock bottom.
Thankfully I am not a member of the Blizzard enterprise and as such I can demand and wish for anything I want, and the problem of realizing those hopes I leave for the people in the business.
Doesn’t mean I of course get what I want always, but since the company is under stress already, now is a better time than ever before to apply some more pressure so they will start doing decisions that need to be done. Even if just some of the wishes go through, that’s good.
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These people have had some ± 6 years of feedback and work done for them by the community- Believe me, I’d not suggest firing if I had even the slightest optimism about these people being able to change or actually make a good game.
They need to get their house in order and then start rebuilding. I don’t think this is the death of WoW but they have a difficult job ahead of them.
- They need to regain the trust of their customers that they are a decent company that deserves our time and money.
- That they’re committed to quality games and aren’t going to rush out poor products (WC3: reforged?)
- That they will listen and improve their games based on feedback and engage with the community more.
They definitely need to clean house for the first point, but anyone who is innocent of the sexual harassment/discrimination charges deserves to stay and try rebuild.
To be honest at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if they completely restart and even change the company. “Blizzard” is going to hold them back now. They would be better changing name and signally a fresh start with all the decent people that remain and new ones they recruit.
If I was in a position of influence, this would be what I’d do.
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I don’t know about you but the trust has steadily gone down the drain since Legion alpha, if you ask me. This whole thing, + the mess we call shadowlands, have just been the straws that broke the camels back.
I have a feeling that since Legion, Blizzard has indeed just tried to put as little effort and milk as much as possible. And over the years they got bolder and bolder with it, until this happened. Now the cat is out of the bag.
I’m even up for a complete slate cleaning purge of the (gameplay) and lore teams for the business, because at this point most things could be better than what they are churning out.
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I think for a lot of people you’re right. It’s a mixture of
The state of the game + absolute disgust at Blizzard.
It was really brand and community loyalty that was keeping a lot of people playing, and that has all but disappeared now.
All I would say is that you’d be surprised the difference leadership can make. There are talented people at Blizzard, we know this. Especially the art and music departments that carry the game largely. But if you change the leadership they could l get so much more from the people they already have. People that love where they work, have pride in their company and really want the game to be its best.
I think most people I’ve spoken to are taking a break from the game, and most also have a distant hope that given enough time and changes, WoW will be in a state where they feel they can return.
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Why though? Maybe you should use “hoping” instead of “expecting” because we should all want the game to be better than it is now. Everything outside of the raid and dungeon sucks. Shadowlands is essentially BFA 2.0, doing some things better but being severely out of touch on other things like considering Shards of Domination “tier sets.”
I hope this lawsuit fires the responsible people [because it clearly also influenced their work culture and ethic] and that 10.0 will be a more back to basics product, no cosmology stuff, nu systems, just good gameplay and no GoT Season 8 tier writing.
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Because “hoping” that the game that has been on a steady decline since 2010 “wont suck” amidst protests against sexual predators is a weird take.
are also bad. I dare say that BFA dungeons were more enjoyable. In these there are too many tactics. It’s an headache.
I think Legion was good: it delivered a lot of good content! But it alongside WoD, definitely had the seeds of its downfall
Yeah, I meant Tazavesh.
It has but there is a possibility that this lawsuit shakes up the company enough for genuine change for their work culture and ethic. In the end, that’ll lead to a better product.
It’s not a coincidence why high profile Youtubers are quitting with the lawsuit being the straw that broke the camel’s back. Hell, even Asmongold hasn’t played WoW in weeks.
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Ooh yes! I still have to get attunenent for that but I’ve been told it’s amazing
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There’s nothing wrong with Hope.
Enough people care about this game, both within the community and within the company that this can be turned around. It just won’t be easy and it won’t be quick, but it’s definitely possible.
But you know, you have to fight for what you want to happen and inject some energy, otherwise nothing will change.
A lot of people will be monitoring what happens with Blizz/WoW in the coming months.
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Not when you pay them on a monthly basis, cause they do not need to listen to you
I understand you’re a disillusioned andy
I would be too, honestly
But this is probably their most damning PR disaster ever, even more so than the Blitzchung thing, and I just want this game that I loved to play since I was 8 years old to improve. It’s always the execution where they mess up.
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That’s not true. The less popular the game is the more they will need to listen to their current subscribers and ex-subscribers. That’s how you keep customers and bring in new ones.
They need to value player’s time. Since Legion they have made everything about engagement metrics and to artificially extend gameplay. You can see this in how reputations are designed for instance.
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It is actually a great dungeon and really fun. But it’s like a 5 man raid, so make sure you carve out enough time before you go 
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best take you ever had, tamajo, speaks in volumes
I understand that’s how people WANT to perceive gaming industry/business, but that doesn’t mean it is that. Changes will not happen in the game that is plagued with swipe-card mechanics (boosts) and various P2W aspects of it (WoW tokens). If you know anything about how Blizzard made WoW into a constant milking cow since Cata - then you will understand that cryouts for a better game will change absolutely nothing due to how little it affects their income.
Not like boosts weren’t promised in Classic by Blizzard themselves, but were introduced anyway and people were legit astounished, claiming “whoa I never saw that coming”.
Changes must come from above, to eliminate corporate greed, and the only way such changes can be achieved in WoW is if it will be bought up by another company, which won’t happen.
It is weird to argue about possible changes to the game regardless when it isn’t even the purpose to why the company is being sued. Priorities, no?
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Don’t get me wrong man, I said it tongue in cheek. I meant to say that I understand your perspective to be skeptical of real change happening within the company or for us to get a good game again, but as long as I continue to play I can’t give up on just wishing for things to get better.
How would you even know which ones to replace? It’s hard to tell which of the devs are simply not talented/dedicated enough and who’s been underperforming because of the toxic workplace culture.