High Elf eyes/skins for Blood/Void Elves confirmed

DH too.

Hey! Sin’dorei! Psst… buddy! Over here! Don’t worry, this is not an illusion, I’m not hiding anything! Wanna buy some ancient mana-dust? :eyes:

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I disagree with these two(since Horde licks anduins boots to) your on point with the rest! :wink:

I just hope they’ll never add Void Elf Paladins anyways, cause what else would be stopping the Worgen, etc? + as stated above, HElves never really had a big paladin scene!

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The Horde already lick Anduin’s boots, the faction is currently god awful and completely trashed morally and culturally – that’s not a perk to be a Blood Elf. Both sides are submitting to Anduin at this point; he’s going to lead Azeroth with the Army of the Light tm.

Blood Elves largely lost a lot of their cool Dark Elf-esque lore in BC, now they’re just Not-High Elves who also love the Light. Their lore passed Burning Crusade isn’t something really to brag about as it’s a story about how they have slowly become High Elves again but not actually. I would argue High Elf lore is better than Blood Elves, or just as good. At least the High Elves haven’t really compromised on their identity.

Silvermoon is actually not that great place of a city to RP these days, Stormwind is - the - city to go to. As we’ve seen with much of the BE population, they went Void Elf and went to Stormwind. Because funnily enough a lot of the BE population were crypto-Alliance players and Alliance faction minded. They were the gateway race for Alliance wanting to try Horde and a lot of their Alliance RP culture came with it. This is a long winded argument going back to Burning Crusade about whether Blood Elves even fit in the Horde and as we see it currently, most seemingly rather play Alliance elves.

Nightborne community is absolutely dead and fractured beyond the lone wanderers dotted here and there.

The only thing going for apparently being a Blood Elf is whimsically remembering the good old days when you were mildly evil, if you like the colour red and yeah I suppose you want a paladin. How long until they just give Void Elves more hair options because the High Elf community complain some more?

I predict another great exodus which isn’t inherently a bad thing because it’ll show who is a true Horde devoted BE and who was always an Alliance gamer dipping their toes in the water.

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Wait what? They never had Dark Elf-esque lore!
Kael and his little sect =/= blood elves
And even they never had a Dark Elf-esque lore!
Orc 2.0 with the Demon boot licking/fel-infusion, maybe… but even thats a big maybe

Dark Elf as in they were doing mildly evil things on the Horde. Using Fel, slaves, morally grey or outright black things.

Absolutely

While a lot of folk jumped ship when they were given the blood elf model through void elves, I’ve no doubt that a good number remained on the Horde simply because void elf =/= high elf

Now that we’re getting high elves, the blood elf community will unavoidably take a hefty hit and I reckon we’ll notice a lot less of them around as a whole. It goes back to the point of:

Everyone is more or less aware that blood elves were added as an incentive to roll a Horde character due to a prior lack of “pretty” races they had to offer, so essentially going back on the original “OOC” (for lack of a better term) reason will definitely hurt the blood elf community even more than the addition of void elves did, and if anything, I personally think the hit’s going to be even larger than it was with void elves

I guess we’ll just see who sticks around (other than the Highblood that is… the OG’s)

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I agree that Blood elves have lost what made them different from High elves and what led to their separation on the first place. Their more sinister nature and mentality of doing what it takes is what attracted me to them in the first place. It makes sense for them as a race to want to be rid of the fel and embrace the light again, but to me as a player who liked the High elf - Blood elf difference, it’s boring and makes the Blood elves feel bland. Then I rather be a Void elf or High elf on Alliance.

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I´d say that it will be up to high elf RPers to create identity of their own so they aren´t identical to blood elves. Potential is definitely there, people just need to focus on what makes high elves different (and the conflict with blood elves, be it ideological or actual fighting) rather than doing blood elf in blue.

For example, elves from Dalaran might cling more to their heritage of Arcane rather than focus on the Light, even try to act as a mediator between high, blood and void elves.
Highvale can see continuous practice of Arcane magic as disgusting, focusing more on the nature and even recruit more high elves into their ranks, sort of preacher style, where they warn against potential fall of the Sunwell, which would result into another widthrawal.
And Silver Covenant could go with more hateful worldview, thinking blood elves don´t deserve to own Quel´Thalas, maybe even going to great lengths to undermine their brethren, effectively adopting “means to an end” mentality when it comes to what methods they use (in words of Papa Palpatine: Ironic).

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I will be making a ranger of Quel’Danil. No arcane, in fact he’ll dislike it.
More focus on nature and dwarf friendship.

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This seems to be the more popular option in this thread so far.

Same.
Except for that future tense, got a spare hunter ready over a year ago just in case they´ll ever make pale void elf skin.

Which is great, Quel´Danil elves have a lot of potential.

I actually have a velf who was supposed to be this and he is there waiting to change.
I can shuffle his TRP description to fit now if I wanted.

and you’re the only elf faction that gets to get along with dwarves and use Dragonhawks. A win/win!

Most elves get along with dwarves, this isn’t LotR.

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The only lore that suggested Dwarves and Elves did not get along is from an old RPG book which is no longer canon. All lore since then has stated that they have been allies and friends, in particular with the Wildhammers, as the High Elves had enough faith in them to send refugees to the safety of the Hinterlands by the events of Blood of the Highborne, though they were unsuccessful.

The Cataclysm-era quests in the Wetlands also suggest that the Dwarves and Night Elves get along fairly well.

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Even in LOTR Elves and Drwaves got along just well and were even friends.

But the High Elves were all about the Light. It was the feeling of abandonment in what led them doing what they did in BC. There isn’t anything different between the two groups beyond a previous eye colour restriction.

I will go on to say wanting to reclaim a homeland is even better as a story narrative as a High Elf over owning a pile of ash and never-updated ruins as a Blood Elf.

This is why this design choice is quite bad at least from a written perspective. Although I don’t actually mind these new High Elf skins I can see it’s imperial decay set in motion. Ion himself said Blood Elves are High Elves – so if you give Alliance playable High Elves anyway you’re going to see people play the High Elf which has more connection to it’s Alliance themed races / other humanoids than a ‘bunch of savages’.

The dark truth is Blood Elves were always about tempting Alliance players to go Horde side. The Blood Elf always belonged on the Alliance. We all know why they were made Horde and why Blizzard tried to justify it with that more evil-sided lore (which is no longer a thing). They were a forced design choice.

This is essentially why the Blood Elves should have never become redeemed good guys and why their modern lore doesn’t really fit a savage Horde ideal. Without the evil, the Blood Elves are really nothing to aspire to, especially when the better faction and aesthetic design historically from WC2-3 etc waiting for you.

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I think this is something that should be picked up on.

Look at the gnome story, which has had a large focus on Gnomeragan. They’ve had an event to try and reclaim it and an updated starter zone that shows they’re still fighting for it. That narrative has been going on for 15 years now and has no real resolution. Which i am sure we all agree is a little fatigued at this point. But Blizzard are loathe to relinquish it because it’s a dungeon and making it some form of timewalking thing and giving it to the gnomes will cost a raid tier.

Whereas the Blood Elves gutted Drathir by the end of their questing experience and then went on to have the Sunwell renewed by the end of the expansion. The blood elves got a degree of closure, much quicker than anyone would have liked really. But they still got it. If they didn’t then they’d be owning a pile of ash in a much more dated zone than what gnomes have but with the fatigued story of bitter elves trying to eek out an existence in ruins. And we would likely be complaining about that. The story is flipped in comparison to the gnomes but both suffer from the stagnant format Blizzard moves their world in.

It’s why a full world revamp is needed and why little snippets like the Nazmir invasion - were blood elves harvest a dead God for anima - don’t really help.

The world is stagnant, this issue isn’t just a blood elf issue imho. The Horde has largely been served a cyclical story where it doesn’t really get much development.

The warchief position is gone, sure, but as per the Vulpera quests it’s just Baine pulling his hair out and pretty much being a stand in warchief.

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I was going to write a long-winded reply to an above poster that Silvermoon used to be an incredibly dark faction but considering how short that lasted compared to how long they’ve basically just been high elves I got sad and couldn’t muster the willpower.

Hooray for Silvermoon, best city in the grand Alliance.