Shadowmeld into the forest with the wisps and the faerie dragons 
love that response, made me laugh.
Hey man the irony of this is that if I called an Alliance player a scum I would be getting reported for sure for hurting their feelings 
Yeah but ask yourself why is that every BG hordes are getting crushed and not the other way around… all players who are trying to be “good” at the game will play alliance simply because their racials are better so on average you will naturally have more players on alliance who try to be “good” and so when you go into BGs you are facing these players…
I wouldn’t say Horde has a crybaby mentality issue, that cupcake softness is dominantly a trait of Alliance players actually
Yeah didn’t Horde racials use to be good? So many people I know rerolled alliance and now, since faction doesn’t even matter because you all can play together everyone is an alliance player… couldn’t be me tho
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As someone who plays both factions, initially being stormscale - horde exclusively for about a decade i can definately say that hordes whine more than alliance.
Compare BGs. If you que random BG as ally n end up losing n see someone having a rant in the chat, roughly 8/10 times its going to be an underperforming horde mercenary who was promised free wins if only he qued as ally n somehow ended up losing anyways. Alliance players rarely say a word in BG chat.
Horde racials are still fantastic and they were extremely overpowered for 15 years n we almost never saw a complaint post like this from alliance players whining about faction imbalance in PvP n suddenly alliance has a higher winrate n the world is ending n the horde players demand blizzard intervention to solve the problem. You have the option to que mercenary as alliance almost permanently, if you que ally n still win the only mutual factor in all your games is yourself.
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No, not at all because you will be paired with Alliance players who chose their faction for its racials because they want to be good in the game
Dude you are literally answering yourself here…guess why Horde dominated BGs for 15 years… see any connection at all or still not… dont wanna put more time and effort into this discussion tbh because its pretty clear why Horde is having a hard time in PvP
and lol…
somehow I don’t doubt that…they must be so afraid of offending each other that they simply rather play the game with chat off
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For sure 
Blizzard calls Horde scum in ingame quest text.
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Blizzard is woke af nowadays and double standards and hypocrisy is a foundational pillar for wokeism
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What is ‘woke/wokeism’?
idk some toxic pleague
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Talking about me?
after 20 years ally only win more when play in premade or have better racial like now or in Wod . right now the horde is completely deserted . i start most of my game on the horde side 8-9 vs 10 allys and with 1 heal vs 2 or 3 on the ally side . but u dont know that cuz u only play premade vs randoms
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Alway has been…
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You keep refering to ally players as the snowflakes n yet you seem the most frustrated and whiney about the situation. Just recently orc was the only viable pvp race making up a huge majority of pvp races n somehow that was just fair to you? All my hordes are still orcs.
Why is it that “the snowflakes” got farmed for 15 years without whining then have two good seasons in a row n people are instantly complaining? Yes horde type far more than ally in bg chat. Its almost always kids having a mental breakdown that can be found at the very bottom of the performance list everytime.
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Seems like me mocking Alliance players offended you and triggered an emotional response. I usually get reported by people like you. Why so offended and why so emotional?
I don’t think orcs being OP is or was fair, but that doesn’t mean to fix that we should have 4 OP alliance races. And the original post asked why horde sucks in BGs and I simply answered why.
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There’d been so many times from vanilla to bfa where I felt that there was always more to do as a solo dps, no matter what class I played, which made me feel good about solo q’ing, it was rare that it bothered me how geared my team was or what they were doing.
I put that weight on myself and I enjoyed it.
But now in DF and to be clear this started in SL. The first things I do when I get into a bg(solo) I observe both teams healer power and generally that determines what team will win instantly if it’s a PVP heavy map.
Now if it’s a map like SH then the team with most objective brain will win and the healer power doesn’t matter as much, but anyway it’s depressive and it requires such huge effort to overcome the current gameplay design(cds, mobility) that basically make players powerful in those set timings and make it impossible for a solo player to outperform the competition.
Also, in arena or duels the way the game is designed now is fun and interesting and the pace has a high skill ceiling but this isn’t true for bgs at all, it’s actually the opposite in bgs since skill isn’t as relevant as cd power.
There is absolutely nothing you could say that would trigger an emotional response from me. I simply dont care enough about your opinions to ever be offended by them.
I was a horde main for a decade n dident start playing alliance at all intill legion n even now i play both factions. I do prefer alliance cities but i have no “faction loyalty” what so ever. I wished warmode was turned into a free for all n anyone not in your party is hostile. Id also remove all guards from anywhere that isnt capital cities.
As for why hordes suck, horde has considerably more players in total which happened after Blizzard interferens that started with superior racials for over a decade n even after balancing people stayed horde because there was no ally guilds n such. Once they removed the guild restrictions people started playing what they prefered n here we are. I still win a significant majority of all bgs i play no matter faction. I also dont see either factions having more or less premades.
One thing i did notice though was that when trying to gear a fresh horde alt my winrate goes down alot. I think horde just has too many freeloaders.
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Press X for doubt
You already answered yourself earlier, theres no need to debate further. Horde sucks in PvP because Alliance has better racials so people who want to be good roll Alliance. Especially now since factions dont matter for PvP instances, even more incentive to play a race that will give you an advantage in PvP. No reason why someone who wants to be good would willingly handicap himself and play Horde with underwhelming racials…
Again you said this yourself too so just accept it and move on
I do not get this narrative that horde never wins any bg’s
It is very balanced, my win rate is around 50% in most bg’s, some even 60% or a tad more
Had multiple matches where some people on horde said to just give up from the start
We won all those matches, blasted the alliance into the ground
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Don’t forget about the highly conquest geared 5 man premade groups which make solo queueing for players new and old a boring experience
You overstate the impact of racials. At the level the huge majority of players play at racials dont even make a difference eventhough people like to think of themselves as pro players where a 1% advantage makes up all the difference, I still think racials should be removed entirely just like alot of people.
I still win a huge majority of my random bg´s on horde if im geared enough to have a direct impact. If you cant win chances are you´re having a direct negative impact n based on your personality you do seem like exactly the type of fella who would sit at the bottom of the performance while spewing nonsence so it adds up.
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