Hot Take: an in-game "tool and space" for boosting ads away from chat?

I know boosters. I’ve also boosted back in MoP for garrosh when people wanted the heirloom weapons.

People definitely do not play along a lot.

Most content*
Literally most conent is easy enough to carry dead weight. Even early mythic bosses.
The WoW devs or game devs maybe didn’t think about boosting, but they inadvertently created an environment where “all sorts of boosting” is The Way To Go for a below average player. Or a lazy player.
The hardcore example is that during RWF a raider char would be boosted by 4 guildies in an M+, without him playing - doing other stuff - in a raid maybe? - whil they boost him for gear.

Your denial of seeing the similairty is impressive as well.

I know my stuff too, you know. And I definitely know what I talk about. They often play / try to play along - a lot of the time they aren’t “bad” - just on undergeared characters - as outlined above - people buy boosts for different reasons. A decent or even just a learning player gearing an alt will defo play along for practice and not to be bored.

X.

I paid for a boost on my feral druid to see if I’d like playing it in m+ at a higher level than I was getting invited to and if it would be worth investing time to gear it. People doing the boost were surprised I played along because pretty much everyone else they’ve boosted just sits at the start while they clear the dungeon, lmao.

I’ve also taken part in community “boost” runs in raids, where they ask the people who don’t know what to do to just die asap to not screw up the raid. Latest one being the jailer, where every person getting boosted over the evening I was there was asked to just die at the start to not be able to screw the rest of the raid up later in the encounter.

look I don’t wanna bid with you using anecdotal stories but while sitting AFK at start happens maybe a lot but it’s not a norm - a lot of players make attempts and if they dont die every 5 secs they are not asked to stay at the start.

You have your feral druid boost story - I could literally throw a bunch of stories on you proving otherwise. YMMV here - as I said - the type of people buying boosts varies so much you can’t just say “everyone does this or that”.

PS: Yes, they ask people to die on final bosses, usually - but earlier - usually not.

They’ve boosted a lot of keys over the years. It’s not a lot of people that play along, at all. It’s only when they’ve boosted people for m+ title that people play along frequently because you can’t just sit at the start there and the person getting the boost actually has to have half a clue what they’re doing but those boosts are few and far between and cost a looooot of gold.

They added LFR/LFD so everyone regardless of skill can see all content and they added the LFG to make it easy for pugs to find each other. They’ve done everything they can to offer alternatives to buying boosts without compromising the challenges provided by the game so once again you’re just trying to bend facts.

Botters would agree botting is “the way to go”, RWF players agree split runs are “the way to go” and ofc people involved in boosting claim boosts are “the way to go”.
Blizz didn’t plan for any of these to happen so how about be very happy and silent that your activity isn’t banned.

the tourist mode feels condescending for a lot of people - many want to “Do” something harder. LFR is aberration 90% of people basically hate but just do for a variety of reasons, none of them being “Fulfillment”.

talk about mental gymnastics, comparing illegal activity with using the existing systems efficiently and a side effect of design… SMH

LOL. SMH.
Like, IDK, being knowledgeable doesn’t imply anything. I mean, sure it might seem sus but at the same time I, e.g., watched and read a lot of stuff about WoW botting even tho I never thought or used botting (curiosity plus some YT ppl started talking about) I could give you a speech about botting (how it works and why it’s bad). And most of my essay above is about a philosophical approach to the idea of boosting in games. Take a chill pill.
Was I ever involved in boosting? Let’s say that everyone and their mother on pvp forum knew I carried people on low elo in 2v2 on my prot pala :'D for gold. Prot isn’t broken anymore so I don’t do that just… if you’re any good you might end up boosting someone even “Accidentally”.
A personal story - a friend asked me to help them do 16+. I made a grp, we did a dungeon and was gifted 100k gold without asking :stuck_out_tongue:

I want to point out that Devs and Blizzard people, while expressing disdain for communiy boosting, many many times expressed approval for “guild boosting for gold” - they did it many times expressis verbis. So please don’t even try to tell me boosting isn’t in any way part of design when devs acknowledge the process and point out “the honest and acceptable way of doing so”.

Also my point was about “boosting” regardless of payment. You made a claim we are all supposed to get things done “on our own” - I merely pointed out it’s a wrong perception as the entire game in its very core design allows and kinda suggests to use the help of friends or whoever to overcome obstacles. Read again what I wrote above and don’t be aggressive or personal against me. Basically your argument, guys, trying to deny my claims is down only to “paid boosting involves floor pov every time and lack of skill luck/guild boosting not” but it’s essentially irrelevant. An andy from a guild doing half the tank dmg as dps and dying 1/3 into the fight is just as fair game as a boosted person for gold who does the same. The only big difference is that in raids paid boosts boost like 10-15 ppl and pugs/guilds do with a couple at most.

I don’t suggest people should go buy boosts, I don’t promote “communities” or whatever. Merely stating the fact that “boosting” and “carrying” is part, intentional or not, of multiplayer games’ core design. Friendship will always be the most effective way to get boosts - you save gold and you get things done.
You said it’s not “natural”. I wish people had some basic reading comprehension these days but what can you expect from gamers…

All of the above is more of a devil’s advocate thing on my side. You might think I promote illegal activities. Take things as they are and don’t add ideology.

PS: I want to point out that my OP started from “being tired of advertisement spam in chats”. Don’t try to make a villain out of me.

I think you explained it very clearly. A while back someone said “You’re either carrying, or being carried.” and I thought that was an interesting statement. When I thought on it I realised it’s true, because variance in efficiency in gameplay is natural, it’ll be rare to be in a 5 or 20 man group where everyone is at the exact same skill level. Obviously this is often not that relevant, and it happens without people being aware of it. And I agree, I think this part specifically is fully intended by Blizzard, to keep some leeway in most content to bring along your friends and guildies regardless of whether they are exceptional or average players.

That automatically creates a space for boosts. I have no doubt that that was not exactly what Blizzard had in mind, but it’s here, it’s not illegal, and they gave it its own channel. Anyone else trapped in that channel definitely has my sympathy tho lol.

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They have a dedicated channel to sell in, trade services. If they post somewhere else you can report them.

I have actually left trade and trade services. One is full of people spamming their crafting and the other is full of people spamming ads. That is where they belong and I can happily avoid them.

I’m not sure why you think giving advertisers yet another system in WoW is going to somehow clean up the misuse of channels they shouldn’t be in? The kind of people who post in the wrong channels are mostly dodgy third party selling sites who constantly create new characters as the old ones are banned.

I would rather Blizzard invest in updating Community, Guild, Guild Finder etc than wasting it on advertisers.

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I don’t know - was just an idea I had - I’m being irritated by those ads - it’s clear they are not going away. Thought maybe giving them a tool to make ads less important would work - not gonna die on that hill tho.

Exactly. Thank you. I was losing my mind with the other guy trying to gaslight me into thinking I’m a horrible person lol.

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Would boost sellers actually use that function? I mean they already can sell it in LFg but lets be honest spamming a general chat is going to get their ad seen much more. And thats what they want

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Funny enough, I haven’t seen a single LFG group which is so obviously an ad since DF.

Idk, I just leave the Services channel and I’m good.

Same here, haven’t seen a single boost spam for ages. Not only is there no spam problem anymore but OPs “solution” of a boost finder tool wouldn’t even solve it. Advertisers always break the rules so they can outyell others.

The people that don’t care about the rules and already post in the wrong channels on throwaway accounts will continue to do so. The legitimate boosters post in the right channels.

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