There are definately community pugs doing 12/12 mythic Ny’alotha, seen many groups listed in group finder Horde side. Communities are probably the only pugs you will find doing full mythic clears, I don’t think there are any pug groups that are able to clear mythic fully by starting from scratch with no players without any form of premades.
- 18 or so in legion. I don;t really care about pushing much, i just do it for the gear personally.
Seems like many players seem to hit the same kind of wall for pug progress. I think that wall could be climbed to some extent but it’s pug life lol, you need to be in the right place and time.
I did spot maybe 2- 3 communities during my pugging since 8.2, really not that many considering. Most seem to use that as a staging ground for their guild. I did not find a community that is very active in the pug scene on ally yet. Not openly advertised anyway, just targeting specific players pretty much (the kinda players that are more social really).
At Ryura’s comment, I’m not super sure what the pug wall is for m+, that is an interesting thought also. My guess is around 20-21, actually I would be interested to hear that from players also! Mine is also 18 tho I have confidence higher can be done.
Just the first 3 bosses and Shad’har.
I have seen some people say (in-game) that they have PUged 12/12. But those are not really PUGs, they function like guilds just without common tag. In my guild are few people with 12/12 kills with “PUGs”. They run a roster, they keep track, they do all what guilds do, just dont have one green text. I used to raid in such team longest of time in past too.
As for topic itself. I think best I actually PUged in nyalotha was some normal run helping friend. And even then we couldn’t kill Nzoth.
But heard guildies do runs up to xanesh - skipping it, killing some other things in pit. Have also read guildies kill things like xanesh and vex, but those are already PUgs where people have done content with different character/guild and are not quite “people from the street”.
i think these are same “pugs” that pug +24/+26 dungeons with 4,5k io rating.
people play with eachother and if the player was good they simply add themselves to friends list. Then any group will be highlighted blue in the LFG tool.
you can “pug” high-end content but it’s not really a ragtag pug put together out of nowhere, these ppl know eachother from past runs.
Back in earlier days I used to pug a lot of old heroic raids. Really depends on the pug and luck how well it performs.
Managed to pug ICC hc 9/12 many times with zero wipes in wotlk, and entire ulduar HM for mount in icc patch.
In cataclysm I pugged hc Firelands all the way to phase 4 Ragnaros (one of the best fights in this game imo.
Dragon Soul all the way to spine.
And in MoP SoO easily 6 bosses on hc.
After that I havent had the itch to clear mythic, and while raids are harder these days, players are also better overall so I’d say its perfectly fine to pug mythic raids if you have a competent leader and raid group.
Pugging Heroic with curve was kinda easy but Mythic is annoying because most pugs don’t even want to do full raid. They just want to kill e.g. the first boss and that’s it lol
Any sign of challenge and cooperation and they runaway 
Good morning! My group has some rooster issues and attendance is lower than expected, so yesterday we have put into LFG @Nzoth Mythic. It was fun. We might have got 2 people for it. We gonna keep doing so until we fill the rooster. Today, tomorrow… so if you want to see a mythic nzoth pugged group open the lfg tool on alliance side and look for my chars there - Feylexi, Feylexis, Shalexi or Locklexa (no, Locklexi wasn’t taken, I just liked more the name Locklexa for a void elf). Who knows, if we our raiding days suits you well and you have what we want, you might even pug N’zoth mythic. YOLO!
Those 3 are gift bosses,u have some in almost every raid
2/10 or something
I know a pug group that is currently 11/12 mythic and is currently working on nzoth, I think their best attempt so far is 14%.
3/12, since I only needed loot from the first 3.
May I ask you to redefine your question?
What exactly is “pugging only”? Does it mean everybody is a player from the premade groups tool?
I joined a few pugs with my BDK, my alt, after already clearing N’zoth. Got to 10/12 mythic with him, but I don’t consider any of those groups a pug, because most of them were only looking for 1-3 more players.
Also there’s pugs such as Aversion twinks or similar, who invite only CE players and first try most bosses as well as fullclear.
I feel like I need a definition for what’s a pug and what isn’t.
How far have players progressed without raid guilds or raid community themselves personally. I see these groups you mentioned also, mostly guild just looking to fill a spot or two, whilst technically that is not a pug group I would consider the player in mind above to be “pugging” even if they manage to get that group.
I could see it being done, the full completion without committing and just playing as you wish but I figure most players would just join or wind up in raid/community before then.
The most dedicated pug teams I have been with was in trial of the grand crusader and ICC hc with a GDKP pug. Basically instead of rolling for loot you would bid gold on the drops.
The winning bids gold were added in a pool and after the raid the gold pool would be split between all the raiders. So you could easily get 10k+ a run as weapons and bis trinkets went for really big sums, which was a lot of gold back then.
I believe this is the main reason why the GDKP pugs were so successful, as it lured a lot of really good players with the promise of loot if you had enough gold and still a big sum of gold at the end of the raid, and the leader was really competent. Every run was most of the times just one shotting heroic bosses up to 9/12 in ICC for example (yes the ICC buff was active but not at its max) and rest 3 bosses on normal with zero effort.
Thinking back those were some really good times
This topic was automatically closed 30 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed.