How i got scammed for 2 million gold and learned that Blizzard really doesn't care

[Obesitea-pozzo-delleternità]

Why not you get his address of house , before doing the business , so you can go to deal with him if he is a scam to you?

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Honeybean-aggramar

@Murløck-chamber-of-aspects

Ages ago I paid for a mount boss drop. They summoned me to the boss and only then did I pay the gold.

Not how Mythic boosts work. Boosters have to be unsaved for the bosses for a start, which means that spots are reserved, and to reserve a spot you have to pre-pay a percent of the full amount, as the boosters can only do it once a week per character.

That being said, the top boosters are all very much in communication with each other via discord, and prices do not go from 6mill to 2mill in a week. It’s not how it works.

I looked on a booster discord and it is indeed lower as it’s not awakened this week.
However I have no idea what the price was before. This is from two different discords:-

I can’t speak for payment arrangements. Nothing was specified.

[Gráinne-earthen-ring]

@Ananda-kul-tiras

There’s probably some reason why they took that stance,

I suspect it’s so that they don’t have to be the arbiter of whether all the terms of a deal were met. I wouldn’t want the GMs spending hours poring over chat transcripts and taking depositions from both sides about what the buyer represented his character would be and interpreting what the seller promised.

[Heist-quelthalas]

@Punyelf-draenor

I can’t speak for payment arrangements. Nothing was specified.

Get summoned to raid and pay the gold right in front of fyrakk, they give an abolute ton of warning to not trade anyone until unside the raid and specifically who to trade with.

[Razgard-draenor]

@Auris-die-nachtwache

Can’t say anything other than that i agree with you. But it still hurts that once lapse of judgement can screw you over, when they clearly have a way to fix this.

Especially when i get a response as vague as this:

The response is pretty good. It pretty much tells you:

1. They identified the scammer and they took action against him.
2. They do not provide information to you about what action they took or how they found (so you do not care more info if you were his friend and this was a rouse to get info about their system).
3. They acknowledge that it sucks for you and they are sorry.
4. Also acknowledge that their policy is to not meddle in such deals, so that they do not open pandora’s box (with scam reports and refunds).
5. Actually guide you to post your experience in the forums, in case they find feedback that helps them or to gouge the reaction.

Personally I think you should look at it as a lesson. With some search you could easily find that boosts like those go for 4M more or less. A bit more caution would lead you to ask what guild would be responsible for your boost and you could speak with the guild to verify.
Generally if something is too good to be true, it isn’t. It was an expensive lesson but you learnt it.

[Karluk-outland]

If they are taking action aganist the scammer, they should be able to return the gold as well.

@Punyelf-draenor

But I agree with the sentiment that a reputable boosting community can be a safeguard from scammers who are just out to fake sell runs.

I’m not aganist boosting but I’m aganist boosting communities especially reputable ones. Gallywix was banned for their shady work. Management gets gold from every boosting run. Why a person would like to manage a boosting community ? RL is already time consuming why bother such an activity? Well, I think boosting with friends or a guild is nice, it should be the way of boosting but boosting communities are always shady and should not be allowed from my perspective.

[Bandicoot-genjuros (Bandicoot)]

@Karluk-outland

If they are taking action aganist the scammer, they should be able to return the gold as well.

Then everyone would be act like an idiot …

The op entrusted a 10-lvl char believing that has a 9/9 while to be sure talking with a 10-lvl char that don’t provide anything about the boost . Such a Guilds…ID provided or even an 70-lvl …
The op entrusted a 10-lvl char with no background while such runs are made from Guilds…
At the end the op entrusted a scammer because it thought is cheap and it could save him money , spend only 2 mill while…such boosting are 2x+ higher…

• Example

Look at me, my 1st car was a second one car…
In order to buy that car… i got the contact of the person , went to see the car… asked for a drive test … looking at any problem that the car could possibly have and i asked how the payment and what files are needed in order to have everything passed to me . And because of those actions everything went smooth and nice like they should be…

But right now …As the OP . I see an advertise on internet from a car that you could buy at 2x and 3x less the amount that originally cost…

I contact the seller ,the guy that advertised that car and just with a phone call he ask me to pay the money to an bank account and after that the car is mine… And me of course im going to trust that guy and send his money because the car advertised i so cheap…

Has any logic??

In the end this Example is the same that the Op has done … And the more i looked the more i believe this should be a scientific-fantasy Story…

[Karluk-outland]

@Bandicoot-genjuros

In order to buy that car… i got the contact of the person , went to see the car… asked for a drive test … looking at any problem that the car could possibly have and i asked how the payment and what files are needed in order to have everything passed to me . And because of those actions everything went smooth and nice like they should be…

I assume you are describing “safe boosting” this way. What you describe has legal agreement between two parties, buyer and seller. There is no agreement between seller and buyer for boosting, only trust matters. No RL ID , no files, just trust.

@Bandicoot-genjuros

Then everyone would be act like an idiot …

Also everybody can be victim of scamming. Bigs investors, professors,doctors,engineers etc. But they try to get what they have lost by using law enforcement. Blizzard is able to ban the scammer but not restoring the loss of the victim. It takes longer time to get what you lost during this scamming event in RL but it should be a lot easier in game such as wow.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

I meant for that particular Mythic End Boss mount, the other guy was claiming you needed to make deposits etc.

For AotC boosts it varies, some take payment in the raid and others still have bank chars set up so you pay in Org.

[Razgard-draenor]

@Karluk-outland

Blizzard is able to ban the scammer but not restoring the loss of the victim. It takes longer time to get what you lost during this scamming event in RL but it should be a lot easier in game such as wow.

Taking disciplinary action against someone is easy, because they can look at logs/chat fast and determine if it deserves a ban. Even if the ban is not deserved, the other party can try and appeal.

Reason blizz is not “refunding” is because it opens pandora’s box when you allow that as a policy. “Scam” is such a broad word that encompasses anything from boosting, trading, crafting, and a bunch of other activities.
Now imagine when any player feels that they got “cheated” they could go to blizzard to “look into the matter” which would need an actual employee to go through what happened.
And that is ignoring the “scammers” that will try to abuse ways to “hide” gold from blizzard and “refund” fake scams to gain gold.

Generally it is WAY easier for a company to say “we allow those stuff in game, but we do not endorse them, and anyone using them is using those services at their own risk”, instead of spending the resources for customer support for a service they get no cut.

[Karluk-outland]

@Punyelf-draenor

For AotC boosts it varies, some take payment in the raid and others still have bank chars set up so you pay in Org.

Are you buying or selling Puny? You seems like know a lot about boosting

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

Thanks to various discussions on the forums and to be able to have any clue what the going rate is I am on a few boosting discords.

I have never boosted people but I have bought boosts so now and then. My best was back in SL I wanted the Sylvanas bow and boosts were fairly cheap for just a last boss kill on Hc. So there I was stood in front of Sylvanas, when my dumb melee brain right clicked on Sylvanas to target her. Ofc being a hunter, my arrow shot across the arena and hit her, starting the fight. I was one shot.

Fortunately everyone had been summoned we were all just waiting for them to be ready to pull. They went with it. I did apologise for my error but they didn’t seem to care, though if they were on a discord they may have called me a noob or worse

My sacrifice was clearly accepted by Sylvanas as I looted the chest and got the bow. There were like four or five other hunters in the same run all with the same idea. I got a few meme ‘do you need’

[Karluk-outland]

@Punyelf-draenor

I have never boosted people

“Boost by Puny” would sell a lot, I would definitely consider buying if you would.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

[Sylvare-argent-dawn (Sylvare)]

Yeah it’s a real ‘ok never buy tokens got it’ moment

[Honeybean-aggramar]

@Punyelf-draenor

I looked on a booster discord and it is indeed lower as it’s not awakened this week.
However I have no idea what the price was before. This is from two different discords:-

Yeah, it’s definitely going down, which is a given, but for it to go from 6mill-2mill in a week isn’t going to happen. Ain’t no prevalent or relevant guild who boosts going to be undercutting each other by millions of gold. Which is why I think it was a bit silly of the OP to willynilly handover 2mill gold when on average it’s around 4.5m.

Massive learning lesson for him I guess.

[Souldefiler-crushridge]

First I am genuinely sorry for the gold farmed for and for the less emphatic people that have replied.

Sadly they decided to don’t give gold back to avoid situations where people could take advantage from it by making false scam (the irony scamming a scam )

Anyway for the next time I suggest you to check on raider IO or wow progress what are the best guild on your server and directly contact one of their officers. Some times you can even set the price.

On wotlk classic, because my guild stopped raiding due of lack of signups, I did like that and I payed them way less than a regular bost.

[Ishayo-tarren-mill]

You legitimately engaged with WoW’s most toxic systems. I’m quite willing to bet you bought that gold with WoW tokens, and then spent it for the most severe carry possible.

You shouldn’t even be able to do that.

But since you are, within the rules of the game, I must take your side.

That wasn’t very nice of them. I hope they get punished.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

Oh I see, you meant in that sense. Gotcha!

[Alchemiczka-azjolnerub]

If you are so silly to believe you’re gonna buy the kill and mount for like what 20% of the prices I heard of? (I don’t have the kill achiev or mount so don’t jump on me that I bought it or something). If it’s too good to be real, then it probably is.

Also, I still can’t believe people can just trade 2-10 million gold to randos in /2 or /5??

Come on. I should feel bad for you but also I have hard time because you ran into it on your own. You saw a carrot and got baited hard.

If anyone is reading this…
Never give the full price to a “booster” or “advertiser” way ahead of the boost. That’s the common sense rule.