They’re Vrykul, not Native Americans.
I’m pretty happy the Uldum slave and harem guilds are shut down.
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I have no idea what you’re trying to say with this post tbh my dude. The Drust are gone - they were wiped out, and the only thing we know about them is that Ulfar implies that either the “good Drust” were bred into Kul Tiran society, or they joined Kul Tiran society and then… died off, I guess?
Irrelevant to the convo though ain’t it. There was nothing to suggest Kalimdor humans were a thing; this convo is literally just “a human can be a vrykul weaboo if they want”.
Ulfar is long lived, as are the other Thornspeakers we see. Nothing implies genocide by being bred out. Why? Because Vrykul are not Human. They’re functionaly different races in this game and I don’t think you can seriously argue for their intermingling.
What is implied, is that the Thornspeakers became a part of Kul Tiran culture by teaching them druidism.
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(humans have been on Kalimdor since at least the Second War, per the second Traveler novel)
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Vrykul and humans are of the exact same stock, one being a direct descendant of the other. If humans and elves can reproduce; humans and orcs, then there’s zero reason to believe they couldn’t with their own ancestors. If they can reproduce with a troll-descended species, and a species from another planet (two if we count draenei), then yeah I’d argue they can intermingle.
At this point it’s an argument of lore interpretation and I genuinely don’t think there’s much room for convincing on either side when it’s about one line of text, which refers to a “their”; which can either mean the Drust in Kul Tiran society’s descendants, or the Kul Tiran they taught. I’m just leaning towards the former. 
they’re just pirates turned bandits vaguely influenced by the tol’vir rather than… what people RPed them as though
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I lived through that racist period of fetishism and, yeah, I’d argue a random human warrior looking to the vrykul like “muh ancestors” is a lot less of a stretch.
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If you want to pry through developer interviews for BfA, the size of Kul Tirans is specifically related to the idea of showing them as burly dockworkers, not intermingling.
By process of a curse. Let’s not even pretend that there’s a compatibility between races with such a ludicrous size discrepancy. Please, do point to an example in lore.
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It’s less of a stretch, but in some aspects still quite dumb and often just playing to the whole “Vikings was a cool tv show & I like skyrim”.
But it is far less nefarious and racist than what the typical Uldum RP gave us.
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Unless they have changed it from WotLK, wasn’t it basically this:
- Metal Vrykul turned flesh by evil old gods.
- Some of them had malformed(Tiny babies)
- Some of those parents hid the children and later sent them off to fend for themselves because Ymirjon wanted to kill them all, which turned to the first humans.
So humans are essentially a devolution of Vrykul, that later populated among themselves to become the humans we know today.
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I’m talking about Thornspeakers, not Kul Tirans as a whole. I roleplay a Kul Tiran human using the ‘regular’ model who builds a lot of his character around a claimed Drust ancestry; it could be true, or could not be, but there’s nothing that directly contradicts a dude going “yeah those guys were my ancestors, and I want to honour them”.
Come on man, orcs are smaller in-game than in-lore; they’re nearly double a human’s size in the Warcraft movie, not to mention draenei. You really think orcs and draenei reproducing with humans is less of a stretch than Big Humans?
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As result of further cursing, afaik, yes.
Who are twice the size of both of the aforementioned races even at their largest portrayals.
I’m not going to contest whether or not you can have your character be a weeb for their ancestors’ culture. But viking humans and drust humans simply do not exist in the lore.
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Considering NPC Kul Tiras uses a heavy mix of tiny humans and the big ones, I thought it was to reflect that some of the population has Drust/Thornspeaker origin mixed with the Gilnean?
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That’s not confirmed anywhere. Ulfar’s lines only state that Kul Tirans’ descendants were tought by the Thornspeakers.
I’m not arguing it isn’t dumb, or that there would be entire human societies based on vikings; just that I get miffed when people argue against characters having prejudices, biases, or being wrong. Characters should be allowed to develop their own abstract thoughts; it isn’t ridiculous for a human to visit Northrend, get inspired by his ancestors, and stick some horns on his helmets.
As are orcs, and draenei.
It is headcanon, but it is entirely harmless headcanon that can be backed up by lore if one wants to. It is better than believing some humans are nine/ten feet tall just because they lift crates.
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Or that the call of the wilds is due to Drust heritage; you can argue it either way. See what I’m getting at here?
Yeah, you’re welcome. Thanks for coming full circle.
You’ve read my posts man, you know what my argument is, don’t get sassy. My argument is that the aforementioned quote can be interpreted either way, and in fact answers more questions when taken as “their descendants” being the Drust’s descendants, as it explains how an entire species vanished overnight.
Your argument is
I can keep looping for a long time.
Get some good faith, come on.