You should look my topic “reasons behind the silence in the dungeons” and see the replies of people from this forum.
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Good advice, I guess I’m just too nice at times and need to punch back, Shame though cause I game to escape irl.
I’m with Deja, I’m English and called posh when I talk but I don’t actually get any nasty comments, it’s all just fun and banter. Most guilds, particularly on English realms are a mix of nationalities that don’t get their own language realms.
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I think it’s more that if you want to play with people, you need to find a group of players where you don’t need to punch back 
. I don’t mean banter of course, banter is lovely!
From experience an advice I can give you is to just join voice without turning your mic on, and tell people you aren’t comfortable in using voice just yet.
Even just listening in both makes things easier and more relaxed. Later you can think of using voice when you feel comfortable about it.
I personally have issues understanding some of the accents used in GB, which makes it hard for me to do content with them. I do not chalk it off as it being an issue with them though. It is partially down to my slowly developing hearing problems, and sadly not even my knowledge of the language helps me on that regard (I ain’t a native speaker).
Still, do not be afraid to get involved with the No Pressure community. They are a nice bunch of people.
there is no pointbeing nice to those people.
if someone doesnt show basic courtesy aka watching the 5 min youtube guide on the dungeon before entering then they do not deserve even a shread of nice from other people because they are toxic for not preparing enough and hoping for free carry / that they can wing it somehow.
beign nice to them will teach them nothing.
only if enough people leave thir keys they maybe - maybe will start to wonder if its them doing something wrong.
if someone have problems which you describe then they should find a specialist and work it out there - not expect others in mmorpg to play the role for psycholigst /consoling person or a therapy session in game.
m+ is not psychological therapy - its chalenge modes in computer game.
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I really admire how calm and nice you are to everyone in the thread OP.
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@OP - im not a huge fan of VC, but thats just me generally. I can highly recommend Scared of Dungeons community for a non-toxic m+ experience (i think some of us in this very thread are members) or as someone else suggested, No Pressure community. As for the accent thing, don’t let it bother you-my guild has a right mix of accents from English, Scottish, various Scandinavian dialects. Heck, we’ve even got Austrian, Egyptian and Arabic members.
If you are talking about the pug community then yes it can be quite toxic.
Unfortunately it won’t.
You may find a better attitude coming from communities (some listed already in the thread) or finding a guild of nice (as in actually nice) people.
i’ve been here for months and i still can’t believe how many entitle players this game has. keepsaying ‘‘you’re the problem’’ to anyone who complains about the game lol
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When you buy the game no where is specified you also have to watch a Hazelnutty video or any other.
So no,its not common curtesy but player enforced toxicity.
Stop promoting elitism or we ll never have new players.
Some of us are seasoned with this but even so we still get hurt when someone is mean to us ,but someone new or returning from better times(maybe)won’t stay.
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I feel like voice chat will make me anxious, unless it’s a very hard keys. It makes it look like it’s more complicated than it is. Why would u VC in +11-+18
You don’t need to watch guide, there are guides in adventurer guide too…
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It is not about therapy and consolation. There are plenty of videos around, yes, to watch mechanics and to see how the group deals with it. But being there yourself and getting the mechanics into your muscle memory is a different ballgame for some of us. As an example, my partner can look at something or read something and immediately know what to do. Whereas I need to go through the steps personally a few times to get it into my muscle memory.
Teaching teaches. Patience and understanding for others different ways of learning does that. And kicking people for failing mechanics most definitetly does NOT teach them anything.
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The thing I find sad about this is that what Øculus has been doing in Runescape, is the correct course. You support, you encourage, you explain, you help people grow into better players.
In WoW quite a few people seem to believe the tough approach works. And it does short term, either those who fall short will try to improve, or will not engage with the content anymore. If you look at it long term, you’ll lose players over it tho. It causes burnout, lack of enjoyment, stress. And at some point people will realise that the reason they started playing was to have fun.
Tough love, or more accurately outright hostility and dismissal, don’t cultivate mutual enjoyment. It makes people treat each other as enemies.
One of the worst elements about it for me is, that people justify this behaviour, as if making mistakes deserves hostility. It doesn’t, it just means you’re not dealing well with being frustrated. Frustration is a very human thing, lashing out, and more importantly, feeling in the right to do that is problematic behaviour imo.
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It is not required for it, but staying in voice even when it is not required helps get acclimated to the environment of being together with others in voice.
If you have anxiety of the level OP describes then jumping into voice on your first high key without ‘training’ yourself to get used to the presence of others then it will just feel much worse. It also helps a lot if you later plan to build a group together, as you get used to the voice of your teammates and what they are like.
I usually join voice to call out if the healer needs to know that a specific mechanic will be messed up and they need to prepare for it as a result.
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Not fair to say this. You can’t blame a guild for a few bad apples. I belong to a guild for more than 9 years now. I seen some really nice fun people and I have seen some really elititst jerks along the way. Often the jerks don’t hang around for long thankfully. The few clingerons get booted eventually.
A pattern I have picked up since BFA is ppl join guilds get geared then leave anyway. So no not every guild out there is bad. Its just as much as the players.
You can blame the auto ban feature for this. Has made alot of people not say anything not even hello.
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Without even a slightiest context of your struggle we cannot give u a good respons. What is a bad guild? Or what a toxic m+ group? The m+ community is not toxic selective who they invite ofc u need to be selective. Even in S2 at then end som4 people didnt knew tactisch at certain bosses. YES EVEN AT THE END OF S2.
My guild is on a dead server, chamber of aspects. We got loads of scottish, welsh, English players aging from 20 to 61, we are though a multi culture community with a lot of Nordic and Middle Eastern players as well. And a LOT of adult women with husbands and children playing with us. So the guild is quite diverse and accepting as long as you’re willing to put a bit of effort getting to know people.
A lot of our guildies suffer from some kind of mental health issue but we’re very welcoming.
Unless of course you apply for the guild, join and within 3 minutes you start flaming us for not having Curve as a guild 4 days in the new raid lol. real incident, player got insta kicked as that doesnt vibe with who we are. And for that person we might appear toxic and unfriendly even though we’re protecting guildies from this kind of elitist behaviour.
If you need help we will help. We have an open raid on Fridays that people can do the raid and have fun, even allowed to show up drunk. We NEED you to be on Discord when raiding so you can hear callouts and boss explanations but you DON’T have to talk if you’re not ok with it or not with ALL the people in that chat.
If you do a higher key (18 and above) the same.
We are all different characters and we are an adult guild so people who’ve been rading can get rowdy with certain jokes but we don’t race/sex/kink shame or allow bigotry. Unless you’re Scottish. Then yer doomed lad 
This isnt a recruitment attempt but just see if you can shift your perspective. Don’t go into a raid expecting you’ll be carried. Watch a vid on bosses and dungeons. Learn how to play your class. The last part is VERY important, not for the dps output even though it matters, it’s your dungeon or raid utility. Use your kicks and stuns where they matter or just ask when. Use your defensives, be patient and be open to feedback.
When I first played in BFA and this guild and its raid lead took me in I thought my taunt was a dps ability and I was using to fill up my gcds. For weeks… and eventually they took me through the basics and I became a bench raider, then a main raider and then an officer. I have stepped down now cause work is manic but I’m still active where I can and even to accommodate me and some older players we even changed raiding days and hours.
Again, not trying to recruit you. Just give people a chance and if you’re not vibing just move on.
P.S. pugs will always be toxic.
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