I don’t know about you but a Disney-esque story is not what Warcraft is.
I don’t mind some goof here and there, but we’ve had a chain of bad expansions along with their stories for quite a while now. Not that the story was ever really good anyway but this is something else.
The orcs had an overwhelming numerical superiority, while the draenei army was very small. Virtually all of the orcs went to battle, as they forced the children to grow up. Add to that the ogres joined. Even so, the orcs did not begin to gain victories until they used fel magic. It should also be mentioned that the Draenei are not that advanced since the majority of their army continues to fight with hammers, swords and crossbows.
Finally, the Draenei saw the victory against the horde in Karabor, but then Nerzhul summoned the dark star and cast it upon the Draenei, annihilating the bulk of their forces.
“Disney-esque” doesn’t exist. Say what you don’t like instead.
Well, imagine the same horde being defeated by the humans. so big and fierce that they claim to be the orcs only to end up in concentration camps.
Also, in the alternate universe, the Draenei of Yrel have obliterated a much more advanced horde. 
Just looking at real life examples. The Spanish conquered the Americas and wiped out the Aztecs. Yet people still die on the hill that the Aztecs had amazing armour made of natural materials that was supposedly miles ahead of Spanish steel breastplates in terms of strength and weight as well as it could even stop bullets. And had the Aztecs not died from disease they would’ve wiped out any European force.
I think it’s just brainrot from all the examples of Fantasy movies where armour is seen as nothing more than an outfit. Which you can easily slash through with a sword or puncture it with any light bow.
Look at Lord of the Rings, you have full plate armour a la 1600 century up against 800 Celtic mail over shirt. When you create worlds with no logical arms race you just fuel more bad tropes.
they should have kept the dreanei like they were in wc 3 instead of turning them into super advanced space goats. The broken are the true dreanei to me.
How were British troops decimated in Africa? Just because you have more advanced technology and education doesn’t mean you will win. The Orcs were infused with the blood of Maneroth on order from Kil’Jaden, who personally taught Gul’dan.
The main issue wasn’t the orcs themselves. They were just a tool but the burning Legion who had found them. They had to leave a significant portion of their population behind to make it believable.
If i recall correctly in the beginning european forces had quite alot of troubles with the deceases in africa they werent used to. Similair to how the native americans really did not respond well to certain deceases from europe arriving there
It was also the fact that African tribes served as very proficient hunters and had mastery of the environment that British forces did not. Even if you had a gun and were using conventional military doctrine, it wasn’t suited for the gorilla tactics people who had been training with spears and arrows since their youth.
This is one of the main reasons that when the British were campaigning in India, they supported the locals who wanted to become part of the empire rather than conquering it by force. They had the knowledge, skills and expertise required to navigate the terrain and who was loyal to whom.
Economic warfare is probably the most suitable because you don’t realise until it’s over and you can’t get away because the living conditions and infrastructure would fail and your citizens have become used to certain standards of living.
Thats because the draenei lore was retconned so the horde can have belves instead of ogers… biggest mistake in terms of races.
What is the reason you’re acting so daft ? It’s genuinely puzzling.
Do you need me to give you one of the many links found with any search engine ?
Boring and predictable story, reflected on the quests and especially cutscenes being 90% of the time cringe with lame cliffhangers and cheesy one-liners.
Very dull vilains, from Fyrrak to Jailer with all the forgotten ones in-between. They have very muddy motivations (if any at all beyond the “I want to rule / destroy the world”, waw amazing). Which is on purpose since they’re all underdevelopped characters. Compared to some other MMOs, it really shows the lack of proper storytelling.
Dragonflight story is a Disney-eque story overall. There’s none of the grit/grim components Warcraft used to have, the final cutscene from DF is a perfect example. Feels it came straight from a cartoon for toddlers. They did a complete 180 due to how depressing Shadowlands was. Not really a good idea to with extremes.
But I guess there’s genuinely no point in going further since you’re clearly acting in bad faith.
Without Blood Elves the Horde would be irrelevant as far as players are concerned. I think there are more Blood Elf characters alone than there are Alliance characters. Orcs are literally a minority in the Horde, especially compared to the massive numbers of the Blood Elves. If they had given Ogres to the Horde instead of the pretty Elves the Horde as a faction would have been dead by Wrath.
I dont have a problem with being in the minority.
Elves dont fit the Horde at all. And I am pretty sure while we would be way smaller in the past, there were way more players in general, so we would have been fine.
And we dont know how the distribution would have been in more modern addons due to racials playing a huge part on a shift in mop.
Doesn’t matter. They saved the Horde, so I’d hardly call adding them “biggest mistake”. Racials only affect a very select niche of people. I’d be willing to bet that more people joined the Horde because of the pretty Elves rather than racials.
That smell to lie xD
They wore cotton armor that could barely stop an arrow. The Aztec army was defeated by arround 500 Spaniards accompanied by other natives.
Again, back in the day we had enough players that it hardly mattered.
I call them the biggest mistake for an lore and estathic point of view. They definitly did what they supposed to do.
And I think you undestermind how much of sheep people are if they see their ‘‘idols’’ or a the higher players shift
I wander how many orcs vs how many Draenei faced off . There is a limit to how many space goats landed on Draenor after all .
Even a guy with nukes , planes and machine guns will end up having trouble vs people with sticks if there are enough of them .
Plus the orcs used more than sticks . They used demonic powerzzz … And also rocks .
Define “enough”. Blood Elves were given to the Horde for the sole purpose of bringing more players in for this faction. The Horde, according to Blizzard, did not have enough players, so they gave them pretty Elves to remedy this. And I’d say that was rather successful.
Well, if we consider that the growth would have been the same like we had just with a different ratio in factions.
WOTLK had 12 million players (I know its a expansion after TBC) I am pretty sure the horde would have had atleast 3-4 million players still. Considering people in the past also stuck on certain servers for their faction there were allways enough people to play with.
I mean I started on a small server and still never had problems to get into anything on endgame.
I really dont think that without the belves we would have had a big problem, we would just have spread on less servers
And yes belves did what they were supposed to do, but I still think, on a fundamental lvl it was a mistake because while they solved the problem they were supposed to solve, they still dont really fit into the horde, even more the way the horde was back in the day.
Its up to anyone for themselve to think what is more important to them.
The orcs were an endless tide. Practically 100% of their race went into combat, facing a small Draenei army, since they didn’t send their civilians to war. Additionally, the orcs used fel magic to force the growth of all children and turn them into adults prematurely. Obviously the battle skills of these creations were disastrous, but the numerical superiority was overwhelming.
What broke the Draenei defense was when the orcs annihilated Karabor by summoning the Dark Star.
From that moment on is when the Draeneis began to lose ground. Before these events, in chronicles is told that the Draeneis saw victory as possible, given that they managed to repel wave after wave.
Apart of Chronicles, in this video is very well represented:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6LIty6Uea4&ab_channel=WorldofWarcraft