I think its time to revert unholy dk gargoyle + buff enha

who cares about this dead game, if you dont like it dont play it

Do you think just giving them a pet bar for the duration of the summon would be enough? It doesn’t sound too difficult.

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The problem is the fire nova comes from where you dropped the totem, not the elemental itself. So you would need to be able to move the totem after you’ve placed it.

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Or they could simply change Fire Nova so it casts off of Flame Shock like it does in Cataclysm. Easy fix.

As for DKs, no. Keep the Gargoyle nerf. Revert the Paladin and Feral buff too.

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I’m 14th in DPS most of times as enhancement in my guild while doing 90+ parses.
When I look at LK progressing streams there are 0 enhancements mostly. Good for 0.1 enhas that can stay competitive, otherwise it’s just sad. You have to make so many things perfect to do DPS, while other classes just faceroll and do numbers.
What is below enha right now is ele shaman and balance and all the MEME specs like frost mage and arms warriors.

Ok, but nobody cares if enhance is the lowest damaging spec (someone has to be) considering all the great buffs they bring along with the quickest interrupt. They’re still desirable in raid teams.

LK heroic is tuned beyond 95% of guilds and won’t become accessible before the 5% buffs start rolling. It won’t matter to the vast majority.

They announced cataclysm. Who cares about balance in wotlk remnants?

Every class brings buffs lmao

Enhance isn’t special for buffs in WOTLK, they have to manually place Windfury totem (their best buff), which makes it inferior to a Frost DK or double buff Blood DK. This whole thread is a bit silly though, UH DK is still a top 10 dps spec and top 3 on progression (along with Affli lock and SV Hunter).

Enhancement is still statistically performing well too, look at any single target fight and it’s right there with Combat Rogue, Frost DK, non Shadowmourne Fury Warrior/Ret. Enhancement sucks when it has to move around because of totem placement/elemental/fire nova. But even with that issue, Enhancement is just under Combat Rogue over the entire raid.

Enhance does have issues, unlike UH DK who are just crying because they lost rank 1 spot. But Enhance isn’t as bad as people are trying to make out, there are Enhancement Shamans doing over 12k dps on Putricide HC, which is a nightmare boss for Enhance and that’d put those players top damage in the majority of raid groups.

Class Spec Score Max Parses
Druid Feral 85.59 121.46 197,253
Mage Fire 81.59 124.93 479,118
Hunter Survival 80.91 116.59 367,719
Warlock Affliction 80.32 121.65 308,973
Paladin Retribution 79.22 119.71 347,045
Hunter Marksmanship 78.74 111.12 34,805
Warrior Fury 78.73 122.7 289,897
Death Knight Unholy 76.88 108.9 243,218
Rogue Assassination 76.68 100.22 62,712
Priest Shadow 76.55 122.62 249,280
Death Knight Frost 73.26 104.92 141,880
Rogue Combat 73.05 103.52 231,366
Shaman Enhancement 70.86 100.16 120,896
Death Knight Blood (DPS) 70.86 99.13 9,939
Rogue Subtlety 70.29 77.86 89
Warlock Demonology 69.86 109.37 224,086
Warlock Destruction 69.6 93.77 16,213
Druid Balance 68.57 103.73 307,152
Mage Arcane 68.43 95.22 4,979
Shaman Elemental 68.4 99.62 152,502
Hunter Beast Mastery 67.06 82.7 401
Warrior Arms 66.52 86.05 2,967
Mage Frost 61.13 71.57 152
Warrior Gladiator 18.58 48.34 9,791

Enhance don’t seem that bad atm, just that they are kinda janky to play it seems.

Its performing better than elemental :nerd_face:

Remove the meme speccs and set it to atleast 90+ parses

Class Spec Score Max Parses
Druid Feral 96.84 121.46 197,253
Mage Fire 93.89 124.93 479,118
Warrior Fury 93.49 122.70 289,897
Hunter Survival 92.02 116.59 367,719
Paladin Retribution 91.61 119.71 347,045
Warlock Affliction 91.49 121.65 308,973
Hunter Marksmanship 90.37 111.12 34,805
Priest Shadow 87.59 122.62 249,280
Death Knight Unholy 86.01 108.90 243,218
Rogue Assassination 85.49 100.22 62,712
Death Knight Frost 83.41 104.92 141,880
Death Knight Blood (DPS) 83.34 99.13 9,939
Rogue Combat 82.68 103.52 231,366
Warlock Demonology 80.52 109.37 224,086
Shaman Enhancement 80.42 100.16 120,896
Mage Arcane 79.95 95.22 4,979
Druid Balance 79.16 103.73 307,152
Shaman Elemental 78.72 99.62 152,502
Class Top spec rank
Druid 1st
Mage 2nd
Warrior 3rd
Hunter 4th
Paladin 5th
Warlock 6th
Priest 8th
Death Knight 9th
Rogue 10th
Shaman 15th

Both shaman speccs are far behind, still playable though but you haveto work harder for your dps, just like it was originally.
And that is fine!
But what annoys me is all the buffs they gave to the already top preforming classes.
If buffs is on the table, i think shaman should have some also.

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This. The buffs may or may not have been needed at the time they were introduced. But now, every single class/spec that was buffed is monstrous. Like in one of our raid teams, our feral druid is so ahead of everyone else it’s laughable. Even competing with, and at certain points, outshines our Shadowmourne warrior. And in another one, ret is always competing for the top spot, and hunter just demolishes everything that has some sort of aoe.

As someone who occasionally plays enhance, I feel the damage is fine in itself if you know what you’re doing. It’s just that the spec is in need of fire nova QoL, much like hunters getting trap launcher.

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I’ll just once again reminisce about Classic, where buffs and debuffs were unique to specific classes, and as a warlock I was in high demand by pugs just for my debuff. I could just drop my curse and afk until it had to be refreshed. I liked it.

Class Top spec rank
Druid 1st
Mage 2nd
Warrior 3rd
Hunter 4th
Paladin 5th
Warlock 6th
Priest 8th
Death Knight 9th
Rogue 10th
Shaman 15th

That’s exactly the issue. Rogues will soon pass dks when more people cap armpen and move ahead. Then enhas and dks will be the last classes.

Well, DK’s have been way stronger than they where supposed to be anyway.

This is such a disingenuous way to display that information. As if boomkins have any advantages of from feral being strong.

There is nothing disingenuous… At least as a class you have choice. One could argue that frost mage should also do good dps but at least mages have one very strong option.

I mean you really don’t have a choice though. One moonkin is brought to raid for 5% spell crit, which feral can’t offer. So it’s gonna be real hard to convince your raid leader to grief your entire caster roster because you personally want to do higher dps.

No, it not an issue. People like you is the issue for asking a buff for a class that is already buffed compared to OG Wrath. Stop “reviving” your own “topic” with stupid excuses you :clown_face:

So you want me to make a post for all the specs below to be happy. Sure I would love if everything was balanced as close as possible but people cry on the forums when you ask for the smallest change that would be actually an improvement. I just picked unholy and enha because these 2 classes don’t have a choice.

If I was a dev the game would be far better balanced than now but I am not. Not my decision that balance druids suck.