Mass dispel didn’t dispel cyclone until warlords of draenor and it’s also not very useful when you’re the target of it, because you can’t cast in cyclone.
and you should learn how to play bro , because you want to balance the game around SS and not seeing how busted priest is , how about you
and you stop hiding behind these level 10 chars and whip out your mains so i can see to who im talking to prob combatinant players 
i hope they remove treants because resto did not need them to begin with tbh , im mainly aruging about feral here and yeah i agree resto is broken but this litttle level 10 priest is saying cyclone as whole should be nerfed which is a no no sorry
learn to read also stop living in nostalgia and look at the present MD can dispell cyclone , you can break cc with shadow word death , you can fade cc and bait so you fear people , you got Mind controll , you have so much toolkit and cry about cyclone gtfo please
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this games dog water the fact a caster does 3 abilities and i am nearly dead is actually stupid also i love how blizzard have f’d me all my 70s over 2k rating in solo shuffle and now i am queueing to 1400 or 1600 with the worst bottom of the barrel pvpers i have ever seen.
Also why is charge dc still a thing triple A game btw…
Doesn’t help when they’re cycloning you.
It’s not even worth playing it because people just spam CC on you and land it either way. Wow, you traded a CD to avoid a CC but next GCD you’ll get CC’d anyways because the CC has no CD. You lose a pvp talent to it, for very little gain vs resto druids. If you’re against a holy paladin - WHICH BY THE WAY ACTUALLY HAS A CD ON THEIR CC - it can be worth using but certainly not against a resto druid that will just run after you spamming cyclones with no CD.
Which CCs the priest.
Ive written it on my activity. Isnt too hard to do any kind of research unless you are the type of person who cant bother to do anything.
yeah the mmr atm is weird , i qued on my hpala and ive been in 1k lobies
you can fade it to immune and meld the second into fear and mc , you have more toolkit how many times i have to tell you that
it is because you can do so many great plays with it
you can easly pay 25$ to go night elf and meld it 
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you can dispell hoj or break it with Shadow word death , its simple even repentence can be broken with shadow word death to break cc , you play fade for rogues and druids to fade clones or kidney shots , your class has so much potential and yet you are here crying over 1 druid spell , wow
yeah it does but then position matters so you are not in the middle of the map when you do it , logic
Bruh. I’m just gonna put you on ignore now.
How are you even talking here when you think you can dispel hoj when used on you or break it with shadow word death.
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yeah same because im trying to open your eyes but seems like its like im talking to a brick
you can break it with Shadow word death learn to READ!
you can break it
You cant break a stun with shadow word death.
ok mb here , but i know you can break repent , blind, sap , even fear
but fade is so powerfull if played right but im sure if someone hoj’s his mates he can dispell hoj
Don’t forget also how you have to spend actual CD’s like fade which could be used against other dangerous stuff (like swaps on you by warrior/ret/dh’s with their instant stuns) just to counter a spammable cc from a class with superior mobility and chain stun capabilities. Always a bad trade and puts you behind instantly.
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He said Phase Shift (Fade pvp talent) is strong vs certain specs but its not that strong vs specs like druids where they can still just cyclone you afterwards. That should be quite easy to understand.
It being strong for one thing does not mean its strong for everything. Its the same for majority of skills in the game.
You also have to remember, Cyclone is by far the best CC in the game and it is the only one of its kind that got buffed going from 10.1 to 10.2.
Fear is extremely strong aswell, but can be dispelled/broken by alot of things in the game while Cyclone cant.
So lets say they nerf Cyclone, that would mean specs that rely too much on it (like feral) would need to get some sort of compensation without making it broken.
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i could agree with that
That’s the issue with forum discussions. Rival experienced players given their take on it. Pointless to counter most of what I’ve read but sure here we go…
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just fade clone… at mmr higher then your wildest dream they start faking, focus cloning, setup before clone. I know crazy right.
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bruv just fade fear… ok here we go: at mmr higher then your wildest dream people actually position well. Sure there is times where we can fear when he is previously ccd but any decent druid cannot ever get feared randomly by a disc
you know they see a disc moving… they move.
Either way, gl with the rival push this season! <3
It literally did.
How do I know ? I played Wrath for 4 years. before I came here during BFA.
I also advocate for Cyclone to be put on CD but to be instant cast as a trade off.
However even if this happens you can always get CC’d by someone else, like i really dont get your santiment here, you dont blame your partners for getting spam casted clone- you blame Cyclone.
I wonder if your opinion is the same about Warlock Fear, Polymorph, Mind Control?
And Shadow Word: Deathing out of any sort of Incap is kinda epic and unique feature tbf. Maybe thats what Razorchaos meant by “hoj”- it cant remove stun most definetely but it does remove incaps.
Oh yeah, i also wish to not be antied by Rogues, Dhs and Monks and Survival Hunters but here i am? I guess they should be nerfed for that exact reason.
Man, hear me out- Stop yapping, you struggle against restos because they’re broken- once they get nerfed they wont be able to spam clone you. And by “nerf” i mean nerf of numbers of their healing not Cyclone. Because theres nothing wrong with Cyclone in general.
And its not just you struggling with restos- we all struggle against whats OP rn : dhs, warriors ,rogues, restos.
Another word about boomies- they’re broken too, they need this near-instant clone proc casts to be removed entirely.
As for feral- feral is underperforming, and generally a bleak shadow of what its supposed to be. no identity spec. If you struggle against feral- that just speaks bad about you, unless said feral is some R1 Gladiator like Tony or Snupy.
So no need to sperg out- we all collectively agree that resto is overperforming.
We’re with you.
The thing we dont agree on is why it is overperforming- you say its Cycloning, everyone else says its the healing.
Collectively its both and if healing gets reduced for them- a single bullet goes through both.
So main issue > they heal too much which results in > them having too much time on their hands to risk spaming clone.
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No, it didn’t.
That’s warlords of draenor btw.
There’s absolutely no drawback to it. You can’t dispel it without casting a mass dispel(Can’t do that when you’re the target either way), which has a 2 min cd now and cyclone has… none. You can’t break it unless you have an immunity like divine shield. The druid can just go about doing their business after it’s been applied, there’s no way to break it.
Meanwhile, polymorph breaks on a sneeze, as does fear. In hex you can still move around. Mind control CCs the priest themselves because they can’t control their character when they’re mind controlling someone and it’s an actively channeled spell.
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MC is way worse than cyclone in any aspect. You lose control over your character because its channeled and therefore get super exposed to all kind of disruption or an easy swap on you. It also can be purged off by certain classes. Warlock Fear, unlike cyclone, doesn’t remove your character from the game so you can still interact with the feared player. (like heal him, give him usefull buffs, dispel him etc.) Can also be dispelled regularly. Sheep breaks on dmg instantly so mages will always have to consider who is a usefull target for it. Can also be dispelled regularly.
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We cant compare 1 single spell and how it performs on 1 single spec instead of simply tuning the current blown out of proportion meta.
If:
-Resto numbers get nerfed and boomie clone stops being such a crazy fast cast via again nerfing of the proc itself.
-Classes that without a doubt overperform get their proper tuning: warrior, dh, rogue and a small tune of fistweaver.
Then:
-Druid, wont have time risking hard - casting Cyclone, because a) druid will be busy healing and b) One cyclone would be the only thing you can do without having to go back healing the pressure on their team, and casting an extra cyclone would be a HUGE risk for their team + risk of interrupt.
-In theory these overperforming classes wont be able to land a kill blow so easy that Cyclone affects the game to such large extent.
The only problem with CC right now in general and its not just Cyclone is that you either trinket or you/your partners die.
Numbers are just too big.
And yeah we can nerf Cyclone, but that would be super incompetent job for theres a larger yet connected problem that needs resolving first before we would got to the lengths of breaking Feral entirely.
Because as it is for now- everything has been stripped away of this class:
Ursol Vortex/Mass Root
Innervate
Instant Clones
Leader of the Pack
Tireless Pursuit / Feline Swiftness (yeah gl playing those instead of getting 6% dmg reduction because guess what → your defensives suck)
2x charge Survival Instincts
Healing and offhealing including Frenzied healing 12 % for 4 seconds + 2 seconds for the globals that you need to press before and after that.
Convoke/Incarn being on 1 node leading to not having a restealth when you play convoke resulting to only 1 race being viable for feral druids.
Remove Corruption.
And next things are simply just how bleak this spec is - its been stripped of any distinction, it just has nothing that others do not provide or have against you from mobility to defensives, everyone has the same or better.
Removing Cyclone for ferals or nerfing it is not the way to go.
Think deeper.
These biased takes based on hatred for one class do not make a good and balanced discussion nor are they healthy.
We all collectively and conciously want WoW to be a good place for everybody yet unconciously we want to put others down just for the sake of convinience.
Its very convinient blaming the entire fiasco that is going rn in arenas on druids and Cyclone to be precise but is it really the case ?
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nothing is fun when the game has too many druids, they are clueless with their cyclone spam and im refering to all of them. there is multiple spec that are severely harmed by brainless cyclone usage which just completely ruins the game for them just like any paladin blind or rogue gouge or hunter scatter do when used without thought, this is what i said and will stand behind my opinion on it
dude, where is enhance, they are dead already.