Noone is going to search warrior & Rogue.
You are the +1 dps spot if any one is looking for extra.
We had a rogue in Gnomer last night
Because the sheep have been told that the raid is easier if you stack ranged.
Our guild raid was actively looking for a warrior specifically for our gnomer half pug run. Fast forward to this week and we only needed 1 member to fill the raid, and we reinvited the same warrior. We also have the same rogue every run being amongst top #3 dps on all bosses. Skill issue
In a melee meta casters are still needed. In a caster meta melee are not needed.
This really isnāt very hard to grasp.
Warrior and rogue SHOULD do top sustained single target dps in vanilla, itās intentional design, since they donāt bring anything else and have no other niche. A lot of people on here have this retail mentality of wanting parity everywhere, but they want to cherry-pick. They want to do warrior-like dps except they want to keep all their utility and AoE and ranged perks and donāt want to worry about mana like on retail. Itās silly. Either we make the game like retail and give warriors and rogues all the same toys, or we respect the vanilla devsā design of the single target sustained dps niche.
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i play tank instead
Ignoring the part where you make completly undocumentes claims about the vanilla class design.
Your entire argument falls flat especially about warriors, but also rogues since we are in SoD.
Both these classes are able to tank, rogues also bring utility in form of CC.
But the warriors STRONGEST niche in vanilla, was its capability to be a dps that just with a gear swap could be a great tank. Thats why warriors were stacked in vanilla, because they could tank and dps, not because they were āTOP DPSā
The fact that you completly ignore everything these classes can do except from being TOP dps just make your entire argument invalid.
I agree warriors and rogues deserve some love, but for christ sake make a argument based on actual facts and not by leaving out some of their strongest utility.
This, 1000x this.
Players blame blizzard for everything, not realising 99/100 problems are actually community & player created issues. Kinda fed up seeing the same issues complained about on a daily basis by a childish & toxic community and they donāt have the self awareness to realise itās problems they created.
Yes, warlocks & mages are the top dps. No, you do not need a single warlock or mage in a raid to have gnomer on farm.
Itās so silly.
Itās always Blizzardās fault. You cant put the mandate to change on the masses playing the game, it has to come from Blizzard. People will always meta so the solution has to come from the designers of the game.
What would you suggest otherwise? Protests in Stormwind? Write lots of reddit posts begging for people to change?
Iām saying this even if Iām not even affected by this at all.
Warriors in leather gear arenāt suddenly going to be off tanking mid raid so your argument immediately falls flat.
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Lol. its blizzards fault that blizzard mindlessly min max the fun out of anything and everything? Game could have a 2% DPS DIfference, and Players will still min max it.
Blizzard cant stop Players excluding players,
Its general mentality that only a bad player would pick a Specc beneath the best, and based on that generally they simply think your unskilled,
In a FoTM Rerollers Mind, they cant fathom why u ARENT fotm rerolling, so they wont invite you.
90% of the game play DPS, you are the most Disposable player in your group, at all times, no you cant do anything about it Lol, the DPS Role is over-saturated, so people only invite the absolute best.
if you recieve 100 Whispers to join your group, you invite the Best options. a PuG enviroment is a Selfish enviroment, your engineering a group to fulfill content for your Demand, thats the purpose of a PuG.
the game will ALWAYS be unfair in that enviroment, no matter how balanced it is, someone aint getting invited.
so what? Reverse the situation, and watch urself excluded in content in trade? what do you propose. you could do 100 DPS Less, your gonna get booted in PuG enviorments lol
did you ever play a war, or your boyfriend told you about it?
Attempt to tell me whats wrong with my statement?
yes
warcraftlogs ā naxxramas, rankings
check first 1000 players, tell me how many "not because they were āTOP DPSā warriors are there
Talk about not understanding the point of the discussion.
And you used the clown emote on me. hahaha
take your pills bud, nobody stacks 20 warriors because they can be a tank
Ill give you a hint.
I were OBVIOUSLY not talking about IF warriors were strong dpsers in vanilla
Join a guild, we had 2 warriors, cleared it within one hour.
because being top in naxx is what everyone wants in seasonal game