Is Check PvP legal?

It doesn’t seem to just reveal people’s alts. It doesn’t list mine (granted, I almost never use them) and it doesn’t show the ones of my friends even though they log onto them every day. I saw that sometimes alts are listed (I looked at forum folks), but it doesn’t seem to be all of them.

So at most, the site sometimes shows alts, using criteria that I don’t know, but it doesn’t just list all of someone’s alts.

GDPR has nothing to do with this, as already mentioned.

That is wrong however

Mmmm. Wrong, maybe, but subject to the decision of ICOs and courts. And we’ve already seen things like IP addresses classified as PII under some circumstances.

From my non-lawerly understanding, I think that character data should not be treated as PII, but I can also imagine that it might be in some cases.

Ask Ion - he is a lawyer

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Since this is EU what actually matters is Art. 4 RGPD and not the word of Ion

In terms of privacy, the issue is that ‘our’ characters are not ours, but Blizzards. And so the GDPR is in no way applicable.

In terms of (possible).harressment however, a site like this could be an issue. It is afterall usuable to stalk a player on their alts, and they have no way to stop that. And I doubt Blizzard wants to have a site or a person use their API in that way.

So contacting a GM to notify them about this way to harress people via this site would IMO be the best course of action. And a GM can definitely foward this concern, even if they themselves can not do something against this.

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Technically it is personally identifiable as you may have your name attached to one character via social media and such, but not the others.

That’s just neglect from the players side then.

From what I see, they appear to be only able to track alts that have done any kind of rated pvp. It also only shows my alts that have done rated pvp at some point

I haven’t even touched any rated on the alt it could find, the only character that has ever touched a minimal amount of rated is this one :slight_smile:

I guess that makes sense for the most part though.

Incredibly debated opinion presented as a fact

Nonsense. Almost none of the data the GDPR is about is OURs, but it is ABOUT us.

Read the TOS, states that clearly.

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the characters definitely dont belong to us no.
our account info belongs to us, but not the ingame info i.e. alts

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Do you think that private company terms of service somehow override european / national law principles ? In recent developments various (across the EU) attempts are made to (some successful even in court) categorize online “things” as absolute rights – meaning these rights bear the principle of exclusion and utility re. the individual that holds them by contract / codified legal acquirement and can therefore be the foundation of various legal claims

Especially in the EU the age of “it’s not yours because terms of service say so / because it is an online service” is long gone

No, game avatars is not what the GDPR is about.
This seeing as an ingame avatar is not a kind of personal identifiable data that can be clearly traced to a person. And that is 100% needed for data to fall under the GDPR.

Another bunch of nonsense.

Please stop talking about stuff you have no idea about.

As long as there is no ruling that says otherwise, Bnet accounts are Blizzards’ property.

Thats how the law works. And if you want to counter Blizzards ToS with just a ‘other rules, in other cases, say this and this’, then good luck…

So tell me, how can someone trace your personal ID via your avatar in WoW?

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Okay, I can tell from your response that you are obviously a trained expert in the field of property rights so I will retract all previous statements made

These other rules = codified law of the EU / national states (yes they counter them very easily)