Is feral on par with boomkin yet?

Are you ok? Bleeds barely even do anything.
I kinda agree with feral being based around traits more, but then again incarnation scales incredibly well with our two top traits while sotf gives you free shred every 8 cp.
During decent aoe pulls sotf energy bonus is not very impactful due to constant resets. For the same reason incarnation is nearly useless during aoe, though its great to have an ability to just end one big target on demand.
And again feral M+ sims are pointless.
I feel like im just repeating myself over and over again so i guess good luck with your souls and your forest.

It lacks dps in m+ when played vs competent outlaw/DH/frost mage/ele who play their class to the max. it can still do low 20s I’m sure but I think that is the limit. Still better damage than boomy but no reason to bring feral for 20+ over WW/outlaw/DH/ele.

Nothing but a common belief to me. Bleeds aren’t as strong as they used to be (or should be), but they are undeniably part of our gameplay and in mm+ (as well as pvp, as a matter of fact) they prove most useful.

Thrash + PW add a great deal to overall damage, and you seem to overlook the fact that soul of the forest also increases the damage of PW, which is actually the biggest plus it provides in mm+. Then it obviously makes for a nice combination with MoC when the energy bonus + predator’s free furies + the frequent omen of clarity prevent energy starvation almost all the time, in addition to making PW casts much more frequent.
All in all, sotf = more frequent and more powerful PW. Can I ask you how is that useless in any way ?

You know why you’re repeating yourself ? Because when it comes to defending your opinion you’re not providing any argument apart from “sim is useless /thread”, a truly wild statement that makes me wonder what you’re basing it on. So you find yourself blurting the same thing all over again when people present you different observations, since you apparently have nothing better to say.
Stating that you tried your combination doesn’t add any more credibility to your claim since I, for one, have also tried it and my conclusion matched the simming just well.

I tried Incarn yesterday and the numbers on bosses, especially at pull, were nice, BUT… every top feral in m+ (and raid as well) on WCL plays with SotF, so I’m confused.

Because mm+ are not all about bosses ?

Ye i kinda assumed that ferals are struggling and need help but it actually seems like people are actually set in their ways and “sometimes even top dps” so i apologise for forcing my calculations on you.
Still im convinced that sotf is trying to patch lows instead of boosting highs

I’m not sure what you mean by that.
Incarnation = stronger single target CP builders and more frequent finishers (via energy cost reduction)
SOTF = stronger finishers (ST and AOE) and more frequent finishers (via energy recovery)

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