Deathlogs installed really hit my faith in terms of how many can successfully manage that unaided.
Im a mage now anyway so i guess isnt my problem anymore.
Well I tried it but died at 20, but many people lf shaman in hc server just so you guys know, but because of totems. All the mid/late game dungeons lf shaman. So I think when we look at hc perspective, shaman is very useful even as dps. I just didnât like how squisy it is and totems staying behind pulling mobs, bad with hyperspawns etc. I wish there was a way to dismiss them like pet.
Btw people above who said I shouldnât be playing pet or totem class because i would wipe the team, I had this nelf hunter to 57 my first try and super new to classic. I died to fallen heroes because I was curious and like i said i had no knowledge about classic so i did smth i shouldnât be doing and died. I have never ever put my dungeon group in danger, I was very careful with my pet.
I would roll hunter again and horde this time but pre 10 and training pet with abilities kinda boring afâŚ
With the amount of new people playing right now, the class and spec is the least of concerns when going to a dungeon. I play shaman, and even though I know I could easily top the meter as elemental in 5mans, Iâd rather heal to have more control over how the run ends. The same reason I always tank when going with my druid. As an experienced player it is always good to take the carry-role in a group. I do however, not hate on anyone not feeling secure enough to tank or heal as a warr or hybrid. I know it is better to let people learn the fundamentals before putting the life of 4 others at risk.
Iâm having a blast btw. Canât get enough of this game. Hope you guys can bury the hatchet and just enjoy the game aswell!
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Iâm playing as holy pally, currently 41. Whenever I run dungeons I only heal, I wouldnât give that role to anybody else because I know Iâm good at it, I donât panic during sketchy situations and so on.
But I keep a str/agi gear set in my bank for questing alone, out in the world. Itâs a nice balance imo and I donât feel any urge to roll âdpsâ in a dungeon run.
Shaman is essential for any group that has melee dps. If there is shortage of shamans, they will take you in raids no matter the spec. As long as you keep the totems down and in range of the melee.
If I wanted to raid as DPS in vanilla, however, Iâd pick either a pure dps class or a warrior. Classes are very polarized here (except for warrior who is the only viable -and broken- hybrid)
Itâs not when thereâs like 5 shamans total at 60, and you want 1 shaman in each melee group. Itâs worth taking any shaman spec on WF totem alone.
I would bet that itâs easier, as an enhancer, to get into raid groups on a HC realm compared to regular ERA realms.
Probably.
Then the shaman gets to grin knowing that theyâre making the raid harder than it needs to be just so that they can right click their way through a raid for 4 hours.
I mean you must agree, the amount of effort the player puts into the meme does offset how it is perceived.
The enhancer coming to raid with full world buffs all physical and magic pots + using runes and mana pots on CD, while totem twisting each fight, does not deserve the same contempt as someone, literally doing the bare minimum.
And Iâm pretty sure a totem-twisting min-maxing nightfall enhancer is a net-positive to Raid DPS compared to a slacker mage/wl/hunter.
Putting beside that most people arenât even willing to go through shaman leveling, if Iâm playing Warrior idgaf who is putting down my totems.
Putting aside the fact that raiding/dungeoning at a high level is not that relevant in the HC experience for most players⌠if it were, Iâd rather take a player that puts that same amount of effort into the ârightâ class or spec.
The slacker mage/wl/hunter was still worth more in Classic than the over-prepared right clicker. Maybe itâsdifferent with the buff/debuff limit removed, but I doubt it.
Tbf, I donât see shaman/paladin being especially favored by it - sure they do have some debuffs etc but I donât think to the point of significantly altering their performance. I think only spriest and warlock are likely to be significantly better in the no-debuff-limit meta due to the strength of their full DoTs and debuffs.
Warriors get a slight buff too, since their deep wounds doesnât get kicked off by everything. Deep wounds is only a small amount of damage for warriors, but itâs applied automatically and every DPS warr has to take it anyway in order to get the impale talent.
Debuffs not getting kicked off would just means a right-click shaman can use stormstrike, and the debuff from nightfall wouldnât be instantly removed either.
Tbh its abit more then that.
In lower levels sure u can be dps specced and heal / tank. But when that loses playability that option kinda dissapears.
Warriors a good example there ironically. Uptoo 50 odd a arms warrior can be a main tank, but when u swap to fury, u will start wearing mostly leather gear. And ur suddenly not gonna be able to tank.
Same will apply to healers, we will eventually reach a point where no its no longer ârefusualâ just pure inability.
Shamans will be limited supply. And demanding them to pay respecc costs isnt rly going to happen. The games rly not that balanced around meta anyway. Surviving is really the only job.
Warriors good for that reason tho, u tank as a dps uptoo 50 and then ur wanted as a dps anyway because u are the meta 
However. Tbh overall.
OP if u wanna play a dps id recommend rolling a pure dps. Its just simply easier. Its less work, its rewarded more, and players lose the ability to question you.
Shamans cool, but its a pain to get to max level to begin with. Its overall squishy it aint a great soloer, totems can cause headaches with aggroing mobs. And u will never be in a situation where anyone can blame u for deaths as u have 0 ability to heal.
miylee and others here have no clue what they are talkin about. enha is is a decent leveler until 40 and ele shaman from 40 onwards is very good.
and if u know what ur doing ele is a very potent specc for MC and BWL if u are in a kader that does have decent kill times. not recommanded for a beginner tho ye. other casters are way more mana efficient.
saying a druid dps is a waste is also redicilous. below 60 in dungeons feral does good dmg and provides a buff to the whole group. also ferals can compete in dps even in raids when min maxxed to the brim. also not beginner friendly tho.
Played this game for over half of my life, I know exactly what Iâm talking about.
You mean the exact same buff that theyâd provide if they tanked? You can either spend 10 minutes looking for a tank, or do it yourself effortlessly and grab somebody else in the group that can do more DPS than you or bring a different buff.
The reason you people are refusing to tank is simple cowardice. Tanks are the frontline, theyâre the main people at risk of dying. You people just want somebody else to take all the risk whilst you get the reward.
i play warr and i tank when i go dungeons.
i take ferals and even would without the buff since the dmg is good. like imagine being this picky out of delusion while building a group as tank in HC.
wannabe elitist kekw.
HC is exactly why you need to be more picky with players.
And that âdpsâ druid youâve taken could have tanked for another group. Plenty of tanks at low levels, but thereâs going to be a much bigger shortage the higher you climb.
If these âhybridsâ offer utility and donât just join as DPS, then great. But they donât. A shaman thinks theyâre WF-only-right-click gods and druids just sit in cat form. A hot on the tank? Check your thorns duration? Bear form and offtank on a tough pull? Nah bro, Iâm gonna cat DPS.
the deciding factor is not the dps speccs u pick, its how capable and aware the players are. u need people who dont f up hard.
nontheless, most speccs are perfectly fine for dungeons and the hybrids u hate on are among them.
ferals are good dps regardless of the utility, wether u like it or not. some of em healing and going bear when mobs have been overpulled is a bonus.
shamans bring WF which is amazing for warr tank, aoe slow totem for sticky situations and a low cd range kick.
Well yeah, if a druid watchs u die, in pure demand to only press dps buttons then yeah its not a good druid.
But saying âwell use ur kitâ. And âi want you to be tje actual tankâ are different statements also isnt anyone choosing to play a mage for example showing the same cowardice.
Afterall every player coulda been the tank. They chose a class intentionally that couldnt yet you excuse those players.