You’re better off taking kick off your bars, it’s not worth risking a mini bloodlust and cc immunity over
Precog should never have been a thing at all, nerfing kick duration AND basically making it baseline is a mess and casters will only scale better as we go on 
every lobby is facerolling melee, yet the forum is “nerf caster x”, and it is more likely to get melee heavy lobby than caster
many of the caster like boomy are overtuned and broken this is true, yet many of these range are just trained by tunneling noobs more likely than getting balanced lobby where u actually get to play instead of just trying stay alive all game while 2 melee on ur face entire round
i would actually prefer the game were more of this overtuned broken boomy/ele/destro/fire instead of guy pressing W from lobby to lobby that bot script can play for them and as we have seen for many it does as full AI bots are really common in df
i personally think shuffle should get a re design and only allow 2 healer 2 caster and 2 melee
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it would increase the que even more as we have so many melee over caster but i also think this would be better for gameplay, i really dont care play mage or lock in lobby with 3x melee
i can go positive like today vs noobs in blade edge but then im exhausted, i rly dont care have this kinda lobbys after 30min wait for game
I bet this some fury crying mage nerfs in 3 melee lobby is rly tired pressing W for 6 rounds
Dk are not so bad, i yust played ss vs duble dh and this was exacly what you said: tunnelling all game trough evrything including thorns 0 cc on heal and still win
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also 11% of their overall is from a weapon enchant introduced in df
it aint easy to be a dh man
next i want to see a retocalypse arms, ret, fist players say that their achievements matter
And what am i going to do with precog while being locked out?
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You can’t get CC’d can you? So now the follow-up CC / micro-cc that often gets used to justify precog existence … can’t stop you and they don’t have kick ?
Correct me if I’m wrong but is that not how it works? And you get 15% haste so if you didn’t get locked on chaos for example on destro
You can still cast?
You are not pressing zugzug enough, use one of your massive screw-you caster buttons, or like walk behind a wall, use grip and strangulate.
You are doing something wrong if a caster beats you.
Yeah you can’t get cc’ed, that’s correct. But i always cringe when i get locked and instantly stunned right after. It’s a sign of a bad player.
But you’re not entirely wrong with what you said. And i said at some point already that if you failed to successfully juke a kick you shouldn’t get precog. It’s just a question of fairness.
If player 1 Kicks you and Player 2 stuns you almost immediately after, there is nothing to cringe over they probably didn’t react to the fact you were successfully kicked
Entirely? So I am wrong somewhere? I don’t think I’m wrong at all
That is how it works and that is a problem
Shamans have such a short kick it isn’t even worth
I won’t go on. I feel I’ve made my point so I’m happy
play better and stop kicking air, try press W harder
watching drainer stream with tren in comms “i hit warrior hard now, hit warrior hard now, hit hit hit hit hit hit hit”
peak dh comms when u hit something harder and say hit hit hit hit hit 10000 times it is good comms
Captain obvious
Nice and toxic as per usual
If your scenario doesn’t highlight that Casters are nuts rn then you’re beyond help
You shouldn’t be able to go 5-1 in that lobby unless you play insane or noobs while climbing
Melee so zugzug you go 5-1 then belittle , troll and flame them and brag about reporting them
You never fail to be embarrassing honestly
I’m sure they’ll be losing sleep over a Duelist hero saying this 
challenger for life dh spamming nonsense as usual, im not readin you and I can tell nobody cares fried takes from random bg chat
just kick more air and tunnel harder and cry more about things that are clear misplays instead of try improve ur own gameplay
i could bet all my golds, if i q for SS now, im the only caster, its been the case for 3 expansions
caster to melee ratio is always around 1/3 OR 1/5 depending on the enviroment
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I mean i could link u a screenshot of my last 20 lobbies. Its 90% casters above 2.1. I have 3x caster lobbies almost always, ive had 3x melee lobby in like 10 lobbies overall. Thats prob mmr issue on ur part. Its no surprise that most bad casters are low rated, hence dont use the tools they have to the max so they get stuck with all the melee that are unable to punish casters. Get to 2k+ or smthn and ull have a lot more caster lobbies, not that theyre more fun at all.
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Heres for anyone saying its not caster meta. Top 15 solo shuffle ladder. 13x casters 2x melee. LMAO. Theres only melees at low mmr which u all are playing at, get out of ur head. You shouldnt base whats good around 1600 players and lobbies. If we nerfed specs around 1600mmr lobbies wed have a worse clown fiesta than we currently have. Uve never been as strong as u are right now, if ure a caster. Abuse precog, cant be hard to fake a 1600 zug zug melee am i rite? If anyone uses reflect just kick into it and get free precog. Guys comeon its not fun anymore, i get that the majority of people on forums arent glad or r1 but like be somewhat objective. Its not hard to understand why Whaazz is playing boomking in awc, hes notoriously very stubborn and mostly only brings out his rogue in competitions because hes that good on it. Sure his boomy is decent but i wouldnt say rogue level good. Im kinda surprised since Sub isnt that bad, but i guess boomkin was just way easier to pull off and worked overall better with chanimals lock.
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because casters are not just as simple as melee haha
and mage at 0.1% smth
Yea it’s always the garbage beyond belief casters that probably don’t even press half of their skills, that are the loudest in this forum. Look at these two SPs in this thread for the perfect example
And why do they all spam “heHe zugzug goes W key”, when anyone with the slightest clue knows that it in fact is one of the most disgusting caster metas ever? Probably their 1,2 cr shuffles being full with melee, and then their ignorance prevents them from looking beyond that. Or maybe they just don’t understand.
Stop being clowns, you being garbage has nothing to do with melee. And if you can’t make it as a caster in this of all seasons, you never will.
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