Kael'thas should return to the blood elves

Dar’khan never had morals. Unlike Kael which journey started with arm wrestling against unfair odds. Those situations are not comparable in the slightest.

Personally I don’t think a past of heroic deeds and being an underdog excuses anyone of evil. The story of how he got to that point is kinda sad but mostly for the many elves he ended up screwing over. I’m intrigued by his presence in Shadowlands, though, if also kind of nervous about it. He’s an interesting character, not one who I think can be fully redeemed necessarily, but he is fun to watch, lol. The BE development time should probably go to those who are still alive and are considered the heroes of the kingdom for the most part. Just my opinion which is of course subjective. Who knows what’ll happen at this point yet!

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Bring back Sylvanas as Forsaken Leader.

Kael as Belf Leader.

Or maybe Undead Elf Allied race leader

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Just keeping this relevant. Blood Elves are in dire need of a new leadership.

Please, no, Horde leaders have been dying or blasting off again left right and centre for way too long. Blood Elf leadership is just fine with the kind-of-triumvirate. Races that are actually without definable leaders at the moment deserve that development and spotlight, i.e. Forsaken, so that the Horde can work its way back to a position of stability for once.

So far hordes remaining leaders are spineless Baine wannanbes who don’t really care about the Horde but keeping nice with the Alliance instead. Kael’thas showing up and flexing a muscle against humans like Anduin could work wonders.

Well maybe we kill Umbric after he goes crazy, BUT then Kael’thas comes back to life, AND Alleria convinces him to undergo the Void Elf ritual on Telogrus Rift and become the king (yes king, not prince, just because he can) of the Ren’dorei? And he claims they are the only people who have a right to live in Quel’thalas and own it under his rule -and the Alliance- moving war against the Blood Elves as a result?

and if you think it’s unrealistic…it’s actually something that Blizzard could actually do with their level of writing, in order to make a big story twist and ruin his character even more, just to make him look “edgier”… Void Elf Kael’thas…so yeah…I guess it’s better if Kael stays dead after all :stuck_out_tongue:

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He is a blood elf character. You don’t redeem a character just after learning that bad powers are indeed bad. He would ignore the lessons of not getting corrupted with shady, bad powers. Your scenario sound way too unrealistic. Also he would steal spotlight away from Alleria. Alliance fans wouldn’t like that to happen.

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Keeping the Faction that could destroy you on your good side is what you do if you care about your own side.

Alliance by 8.2.5 wasn’t really strong enough to “destroy” the Horde. They were as much spent as Horde was and they only had troops for ‘one final assault’.

As for Erevien, I think that Kea;'thas should return him a saucy kiss and tell him that he loves him.

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I really love kael’thas alot. Him returning to the blood elves would make me buy a full year sub.

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Almost every Blood Elf fan loves him in some way -even just for the nostalgia feeling-, but we also have to be realistic…Kael will be certainly redeemed but most likely he won’t return to Silvermoon -or even to the world of the living at all. Blizzard will fix the “mistakes” they made toward him with his terrible story in TBC and how it ended for his character, but he won’t come back.

And this, for several reasons. First of all, if he comes back to the Blood Elves, a major Alliance character would have to be brought back too for parity, and most likely one connected to Kael’thas with a rivalry. Of course it’s not going to be Arthas to return to the Alliance, Blizzard aren’t going to tamper with his character and ruin his image of Lich King forever. Maybe it could be Garithos if we even find him in the Shadowlands, but that’s very iffy, Blizzard highly despise him to the point he’s not even mentioned by the Blood Elves -not even Rommath- when talking about the betrayal of the Alliance toward the Sin’dorei. Also realistically Garithos with his racism won’t accept at least half of the races that currently are in the Alliance itself, namely Night Elves, Void Elves, Worgen and more, so it wouldn’t make that much sense at all. Of course Garithos could be redeemed too and lose all of his racism but then what would even be the point… at that point he wouldn’t even be the Garithos we knew from Warcraft 3 anyway.

They could bring another Alliance character back that was not inherently bound to Kael’thas -Uther or someone else- but that’s not the only problem anyway. If Kael has a right to come back to Azeroth, redeemed and living among his people as a ruler once again, what about the other characters of the other races? Zul’jin would have a right to be redeemed and come back to the Amani too. Same for Garrosh and the Orcs, maybe he is redeemed and could want to come back to be the Warchief once again? -especially now that we have the Mag’har of Draenor on our side… that would be quite ironic for him, but fitting I guess :stuck_out_tongue: ), causing yet another civil war with the side of the Horde loyal to the Council instead? or, what about Cairne? (even if he has nothing to be redeemed about, the Tauren would want him back as not a lot of people liked the way he died, and not a lot of people in the Horde like Baine anyway) What about Fandral Staghelm, or Benedictus? I guess you see my point…sure we like Kael, but we have to acknowledge that he’s not the only special character that would have a right to be redeemed and brought back to his people after Shadowlands.

Not to mention that I think the majority of the Blood Elves in lore wouldn’t accept him back, either as Prince or Grand Magister, or in any other form. Just think about it, if Hitler came back to life nowadays and returned to Germany (I know Kael’thas is not as bad as Hitler, but after his betrayal and the way he almost sold the entire race to the Burning Legion and almost doomed the world in the process for his pride (which is the reason he is in Revendreth in the first place), the perception and judgment of a common Blood Elf is probably not very different from the judgment we would have on Hitler nowadays if he returned and our leaders told us he is now “redeemed” for his past sins, most people won’t just believe it because they have not seen his redemption in the afterlife with their own very eyes). So as I said most likely the majority of the Blood Elves wouldn’t accept him back anymore anyway, especially after the race changed and shifted so much in time that now the Light and the Blood Knights are the focus rather than volatile and forbidden magic like arcane/fel and the Magisters were at the time. just like the majority of the other people (Germans or otherwise) wouldn’t accept the presence of Hitler back in Germany -or in our world- at all after everything he had done.

So I guess we have to deal with it, I don’t think it’s really going to happen at all. We can just be happy that he’s going to be redeemed though, and at least the bad story of his corruption he got in TBC will be mostly undone and forgiven, like it was for Illidan, so at least we can have a good memory of Kael once again, but it will still be…just a memory after all, the Blood Elves and Quel’thalas have moved on and they will continue to move on even without him.

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Uther is the best candidate for alliance side. Only if returning characters would be a thing.

Yeah after his people basicly turned away from him.

Kael’s redemtion is his own thing, it doesn’t mean that Sin’dorei has forgive him. He may think whatever he wish, he belongs to the shadowlands, not to the sin’dorei.
UPD leave dead be dead. Don’t bring them back, it will remove all value of their deaths in the first place. Uther, Kael is not the major characters who need story act of returning to the world of the living.

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No, i don’t want to see Kael as a Horde leader.

Kael’thas is the best character in the game. Him getting redeemd and being at peace with his people again would solve all grief I had with blizzards writing beforehand.

Kael’Thas was never horde, he has always been alliance before going mad.

Blood elves joining horde is against his will. He won’t come back as leader unless total story change like BE becoming alliance or KT becoming horde.

actually I think Kael was not against that idea…he was likely informed by Rommath that in Azeroth, Silvermoon was going to join the Horde…he didn’t say “it’s ok” or “I don’t want”, just because he was already in allegiance with the Legion at that point so he didn’t really care.

But he was not completely against the idea, actually. Which is not weird considering he himself made an alliance with the Naga of Lady Vash’j. Certainly he would never return to the Alliance, unless a horrible plot story twist happens, like, as I said, he is going to return to life as a Void Elf or something like that :nauseated_face:

but as I said I think Kael will stay in the Shadowlands and the best he can get is redemption for his past

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Kael’thas has so much potential. Together with Arthas, Illidan, Thrall, he is one of the main chars from WC3.

Others all have great exposure in wow. Thrall is always here. Arthas had an entire expansion. Illidan finally got redeemed. But KT is a total joke in wow compared to them.

I hope KT can have more story development beyond SL.