I rarely ever encounter leavers in keys below 20.
Last time I had a leaver in a low key(14 TJS) this is what was said afterwards, couldn’t screenshot the other stuff said during the key because of the weakauras spamming the chat so older stuff gets pushed off:
“get +2 iq tank”.
Meanwhile, said guy died to geyser on wise mari, I ressed him and then he died to geyser again like 10 seconds later. Then we almost wipe on the 2nd boss and it’s somehow the tanks fault. Then we wipe in liu’s room several times to fear not getting interrupted because me and the tank had ours on CD. But it was somehow the tanks fault. Then we wipe on the boss, tank didn’t have enough RP to get his hp up after the jade serpent strike, that’s his mistake but the healer should’ve been able to cover it in a 14 but instead people, especially the “get +2 iq tank” guy, go ballistic on him and he leaves after that. The guy saying get +2 iq tank was also doing a ridiculous 15k dps.
I don’t even have all 20s timed, I have several keys well below 20 and I’ve got it.
So basically one is a low key masochist if they go beyond 20
You need way less than 20s for that, is 2500 score.
You want timed 20s for portals
and you think this game is not toxic 
i had lots of leavers and it’s mostly after a simple mistake in doable keys like 14-15 so people don’t want to time it, they want to get boosted for free or they leave.
It’s not, it’s rare that I encounter people like this but when I do they are usually people being angry about someone leaving, when they caused the leave in the first place.
i think since because you play a healer you just leave keys and don’t have any issues and easily find good people to do your keys with, otherwise i dont think we’re playing the same game
I did a 13 for fun last week SBG. Warrior DPS left after typing “wtf” at second boss.
We still 3 chested.
There are some people that leave for no reason at all.
I only leave keys where there’s some serious clown stuff going on or people start flaming like mad or if someone else leaves first, because I’m not gonna slog through a dungeon with 4 people.
I don’t see why this couldn’t be implemented. If they made it so that you could not fall out of a bracket once you had entered it (i.e. 1600, 1800, 2100 and 2400 etc.), I don’t think this would necessarily be bad for the game. It would incentivise people to always play instead of sitting on a certain rating for end of season rewards, it would cause more participation in each bracket. I very often hear that 2.2k players are matched with people way higher or lower CR and MMR, assumingly because the amount of people in those brackets are so low that the system has to expand.
It’s not like wiping to a mythic boss a certain number of times will lock you out either, you can keep pulling until it dies.
This is what is going to happen even more when keys do not deplete, since there is no reason to finish a failed run that you better just restart.
but at least your decision to not timing a key won’t affect the key owner like i said the whole system is really BAD but this small thing can lower the stress it brings
Trying over and over and over the same key is actually more stressfull than getting a -1 key and do that one.
no it’s not lol if you know that it won’ get depleted then you can care less about it just like the people who leave, you just go and restart. if your aim is to get +15 to +16, depleting your key because someone decides to leave is so much more annoying and stressful than the option of restarting
Yes it is. only about 6-7% of the playerbase has all 20’s timed (me neither). This means the big majority is trying to full time do a dungeon on a +1 level than they did before. They are still progressing. When you do not deplete keys with -1 they will stay in full push stress mode.
they will have the option to go join a +14 group or manually deplete the key which is a thing even now
Well, in that case they just join a group with the same key and try again too. Then there is no problem anyway.
but they won’t be losing their key because of someone else’s decision . this game is filled with weird people doing stuff for no reason. idk how they let this happen in the first place.
In the end M+ is group content. You can use your key and someone elses key. You have influence on other peoples key too. Also when it upgrades.
If you are a lone dps with no 20s is easier said than done to join someone else keys.
Your best bet is to push your own but how you think people will react when someone break their key?
People will be stressed for the slightest of mistakes.
Cause if they fail that means back to pushing it back to a 20
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typing ‘‘wtf’’ and leaving for no reason is not participating in group content. idk why you’re against it is it because you’re already playing with your pre-made groups ?