Make Zereth Mortis reputation rewards account wide

[Happiness-burning-blade]

@Aylmeric-moonglade

With regards to Paragon chests it’s simple:

Main earns exalted with the faction & unlocks rewards & Paragon farming.
Alts have access to rewards unlocked by main but NO Paragon farming. Alts have access to Paragon chests once thay have accrued 42K rep with the faction ( the amount needed from Neutral to Exalted)

this is exactly what I am saying.

[Zysi-kazzak]

@Happiness-burning-blade

I don’t want to Sacrafice something which will make the game worse.

Unlock Rewards yes. Merge the Progress Bars. Absolutely not.

Don’t be so selfish because you want an easy game.

Unlock rewards yes, Merge the progress bars absolutely yes. As far as I have seen a lot of people have disagreed with you. And knowing if these sort of vote would arrive for account wide reps it’s highly likely that it will be favored.

[Happiness-burning-blade]

@Zysi-kazzak

Unlock rewards yes, Merge the progress bars absolutely yes. As far as I have seen a lot of people have disagreed with you. And knowing if these sort of vote would arrive for account wide reps it’s highly likely that it will be favored.

That doesn’t mean that it should be implemented.

To me is sounds like alot of players asking to have the game made easier for them.

Sure having the Rewards is fine, but whether you work towards the actual Progress Bar or not is up to you. You’ll already have the rewards from them, so it doesn’t really affect you whether the progress bar is full or not.

If you don’t want to do the Rep twice, don’t do it. Simples.

[Zysi-kazzak]

Account progression > Character progression, doing a grind once is rewarding, doing it twice is punishment.

[Happiness-burning-blade]

But you don’t have to do it twice.

You would get all the Rewards and Achievements and Unlocks related to the Reputation you did on 1 character.

But the actually reputation bar is tied to the character who did the achievement.
If you don’t want to repeat the Grind, you don’t have to.

I don’t see how this is hurting you. You get what you want, and other players don’t have a huge part of the game removed.

[Zysi-kazzak]

Did I say it is hurting me? Account-wide reps makes more sense for me when I level an alt or do a twink I have access to vendors’ equipment which are rep tied and a lot more 99% of the time when in the past a vendor was added and you needed to be exalted to buy a piece of equipment you would already get a better but for alt, it would be more beneficial right now the gearing is much more different thank god for that at least.

Overall it’s 2022 a lot of games are being more innovational on that part and prefer account-wide features more.

To me, it seems you are like one of those older people who cannot embrace change and needs to stay in the current state. No wonder the game lacks new features like these and then people end up leaving.

[Seluniel-nordrassil]

@Happiness-burning-blade

Don’t be so selfish because you want an easy game.

Without trying to refute your point, I would just like to comment that “easy” is imho not the best choice of words for open world rep grinds.
People take issue with regular open world rep grinds because of the tedium and not a difficulty.

In fact if there was a more difficult but much faster alternative path to more reputation, people would take it.
Just like how most people will not spam level 1 torgast runs for their soul ash

[Kotarnus-chamber-of-aspects]

@Happiness-burning-blade

I like Paragon it gives me something to keep working towards once I’ve finished the Rep.

I wouldn’t mind it if it only gave gold and currency. But I dislike that it gives cosmetic rewards. The Enlightened paragon chest even grants the wormhole upgrade, which is a large quality of life upgrade.

Make it reward only gold and currency. All the rewards, including cosmetics, should be at the vendor and require up to exalted reputation to purchase.

[Happiness-burning-blade]

@Zysi-kazzak

Did I say it is hurting me? Account-wide reps makes more sense for me when I level an alt or do a twink I have access to vendors’ equipment which are rep tied and a lot more 99% of the time when in the past a vendor was added and you needed to be exalted to buy a piece of equipment you would already get a better but for alt, it would be more beneficial right now the gearing is much more different thank god for that at least.

But I’m not trying to take that away from you.

That’s fine. You get all the rewards and can purchase them from the Vendor etc.

That is a quality of life improvement for every single player.

However, the extra-step on top of that which you are suggesting, is only really a corner cut for a few players.

There needs to be a balance, and the easy balance to find here is to give something to all the players (the overall Quality of Life improvement), and not take away the joys of having an Alt away from the other players.

@Zysi-kazzak

Overall it’s 2022 a lot of games are being more innovational on that part and prefer account-wide features more.

To me, it seems you are like one of those older people who cannot embrace change and needs to stay in the current state. No wonder the game lacks new features like these and then people end up leaving.

That’s a very narrow minded comment. You must be one of those Young people who think they can just walk in a change 17 years of hard work because you don’t like it.

I’m all for change. But change needs to be a compromise. It needs to take everybody’s thoughts and feelings into account. Not just one sides.

If you don’t like the fact that WoW has a community of older players who have played the game since probably before you were even born. Then maybe go and play one of those “new” games. I hear Lost Ark is good.

[Happiness-burning-blade]

@Kotarnus-chamber-of-aspects

I wouldn’t mind it if it only gave gold and currency. But I dislike that it gives cosmetic rewards. The Enlightened paragon chest even grants the wormhole upgrade, which is a large quality of life upgrade.

I think the biggest issue with patch 9.2 was the removal of QOL and Flying being removed from the World Content. It has taken alot of meaning away from doing the content.

[Zysi-kazzak]

@Happiness-burning-blade

Then maybe go and play one of those “new” games. I hear Lost Ark is good.

Who do you think you are telling me what should I play?
Not even once I told you to play something else and you pull that already.
As I said you are one of those older people who cannot embrace change, from the glory days of having loads of people wow has fallen really far, in order to get in more audience changes must be done.

This game isn’t really new player friendly either take a look at the forums and see how people are confused with the game and with the story.

Either way, you do you. I will keep disagreeing with you as others have so far.

[anon20309957]

@Happiness-burning-blade

However, I like to point out Reputation itself shouldn’t be accountwide (this is to avoid players exploiting Paragon)

Remove Paragon rep, its just a feature to have a continuation of grinding already completed content for lacklustre rewards.

[Happiness-burning-blade]

It’s the way you are refusing to see that you are requesting an extra step which would take away from more people than it gives to.

There is QOL for everyone is unlocking Rep rewards account wide.

But taking Rep grind away from alts is taking away from many people who want to do the grind anyway, and for what it actually gives to the players, isn’t really worth it.
You have what you are asking for anyway. Why do you want to take something away from people.

I’m just suggesting if you don’t like the game there are others to play. You’re the one telling
that I’m old and I don’t like change. When in fact, I love change. There is a lot I would change in the game and I embrace how the game has changed since Vanilla. Which is why I play retail and not Classic.

At the end of the day. What you are asking for is taking away more than it is giving. When you would already have been given the main thing you want. Which is account wide Unlock of Rewards, Achievements etc. if you don’t want to do the grind again you would never have to as you have everything you would ever want from doing it. Other people however, might want to do it.

[Happiness-burning-blade]

I enjoy having something to work towards. It’s optional, if you don’t want to do it, don’t do it.

[Zysi-kazzak]

@Happiness-burning-blade

It’s the way you are refusing to see that you are requesting an extra step which would take away from more people than it gives to.

There is QOL for everyone is unlocking Rep rewards account wide.

But taking Rep grind away from alts is taking away from many people who want to do the grind anyway, and for what it actually gives to the players, isn’t really worth it.
You have what you are asking for anyway. Why do you want to take something away from people.

I’m just suggesting if you don’t like the game there are others to play. You’re the one telling
that I’m old and I don’t like change. When in fact, I love change. There is a lot I would change in the game and I embrace how the game has changed since Vanilla. Which is why I play retail and not Classic.

At the end of the day. What you are asking for is taking away more than it is giving. When you would already have been given the main thing you want. Which is account wide Unlock of Rewards, Achievements etc. if you don’t want to do the grind again you would never have to as you have everything you would ever want from doing it. Other people however, might want to do it.

I disagree.

[anon20309957]

@Happiness-burning-blade

I enjoy having something to work towards. It’s optional, if you don’t want to do it, don’t do it.

There are better ways of creating something to work towards like new and different forms of content, Paragon rep just shows how lazy the thought process has been at Blizzard.

[Kotarnus-chamber-of-aspects]

Well, like I said, it doesn’t have to be removed. Just make it reward gold and currency and no cosmetics or quality of life items.

[Ameranthe-terenas]

Yeah grinding rep on more than one character, is so mind numbingly dull. Especially when there is barely anything to actually do in the zone. Also the cypher ting in account shared, so…

[Happiness-burning-blade]

@anon20309957

There are better ways of creating something to work towards like new and different forms of content, Paragon rep just shows how lazy the thought process has been at Blizzard.

I agree with you to some extent. But Paragon rep is optional. You don’t need to do it. There are no league tables for Paragon, like there is M+ which is lazy content design beyond +15.

@Zysi-kazzak

I disagree

You can disagree as much as you like. But it doesn’t mean that what you doesn’t take away more from players than it gives. I agree accountwide rewards from rep rewards would be a good improvement. Accountwide rep on the other hand. No.

[Happiness-burning-blade]

I honestly think some quality of life items should still be behind rep. I realise that is a hot topic at the moment.

But Cypher of the first ones seems bland and unattractive because there is nothing to work towards on it.

I realise that many have a differing opinion on that. But the way I see it is that if you want to play WOW you should expect to play WOW.