Manifest Timeways boss is going to make Boosting community blossom!

Lmao, what.

Do list what “most classes” can use to dispel themselves from magic effects.

I don’t get generic whines like this.

If it’s impossibru, how did you time it so comfortably with a 462 person in your group?

Why can’t people just ask for tips these days instead of crying?

This is the worst part, you stand still and let the big light slice pass over you but you don’t get dispelled so now you’re having to move to stay in it but also expected to stop the instant you are dispelled.

I’m sure it’s easier in organised groups where you are actually communicating with the healer but in PuGs it’s guess work :grin:

I think it is the easiest for the player that does not get dispelled since you got it all in your own hands. Probably a WA of the debuff with the timer will help a lot. But in general when you do not get dispelled, move to the line of the dark/just in the dark and there just stand still and dps. It will fall off while you are still in the light.

Obv all healers can

Hunters - Turtle
Monks - Diffuse Magic, Detox, Healers can use Diffuse Magic on themselves, Detox and Revival
Mages - Ice Block
Warlocks - Imps can dispel magic
Paladins - Sacred Cleansing , Bubble
Priests - Mass Dispel
Demon Hunters - Consume Magic
Warrior - spell reflect

etc. Some classes may need to tweak talents for this. As I said most classes so they should not rely on the healers.

yep this boss was legit made for premades on voice, id be glad if it got the hammer

I think hunter need to pre-press turtle. It does not remove already applied debuffs. (not playing a hunter though).

Detox is only healer. Non healer specs can not dispell it. Revival is a healer only too, but that is on higher keys just ‘1’ shotting the group. The debuff needs to be removed, people need to get healed up, and then the 2nd falls off for again quite some damage.
Diffuse magic certainly works (90 sec cooldown).

Obviously immunities work (on 5 minute cooldown), but the dispel of the paladin does not include the right dispell.

Like revival, better not use it since it will ‘1’ shot the group when 2 are going off at the same time. Trust me, i tried :joy:

There is no warlock right now who would suffer the dps decrease by the talent changes, but indeed.

Most classes can’t. And you for sure want to talk to your healer when you want to do it yourself since you do not want to 1 shot your group.

Well there you go I guess I got it wrong then. Ty.

Some dispel both, others let it time out but the issue is the same. You have to be in the right section.

In an ideal world you can stand still in the right section at this precise moment. In practice not so much.

The debuff has an 8 seconds cooldown. That is the same as the healer dispell cooldown. You can not dispell both as the healer without other buttons (of others).

Why not? There is nothing else to dodge during the debuff-mechanic. It comes after the orbs-dodging-phase.

Have you not done the fight? It would seem self explanatory to me that the dark and light zones rotate constantly. Therefore movement is required to be in the right place.

In an ideal world you can get to the right place and stand still. In practice, its not always possible. Moving but being in the right zone is better than exploding in the wrong one.

But you can just find a dark line and stand still and stay for 6 seconds in the light. The debuff is only 8 seconds. It should not be too hard to stand still and just dps. There is nothing else to dodge during this phase :thinking: You do not need to stutterstep stay in the middle of the light.
(which is why i suggested a WA to know exactly when it falls off)

Like I have repeatedly tried to express, there is in theory and there is in what happens in practice.

If you do the key a lot you’ll see how it actually works out in reality vs perfect in theory.

When you aren’t dispelled as the first choice you are in the wrong place to just let it time out. So most commonly when getting to the right place to be able to even attempt to stand still when you explode means you are moving to the next light section as the one you were in has already passed over you.

On the whole it is still better to explode in the right section even if you risk taking damage. Rather than explode in the wrong section and cause hell for the whole group.

That is not to say it can’t be done. No one is saying that. Just that life rarely works out perfectly.

It’s mostly a case of knowing the timing for the wedges changing.

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I see many stand too close as well including healers getting caught out.

Practice makes perfect.

Come again what ?
This is not a dispel. This is effectively a purge, for use on enemy players only.

Turtle to my knowledge only negates the damage part, but you still have to wait until it expires. That is a lot of damage lost though.

Diffuse works. Detox only for Mistweaver.

Iceblock works to my knowledge.

Warlock - imp can dispel indeed, but it depends on which spec you are, as some specs do not use pets to my knowledge.

I am not sure if Sacred Cleansing works, but I doubt Blizzard gives magic dispel to a hybrid like that.likely it is only for Holy. Bubble does work, but like Ice block only for a single one.

Consume Magic is an offensive dispel so you cannot dispel stuff from yourself.

Spell reflect works in the same way as AMS does as it only prevents the application of the ability. I think all you achieve is that you guarantee that others will get the debuff instead.

This boss is a nightmare for casters but it’s also worse than it should be because in M+ healers are used to use healing abilities on burst windows (mob makes explosion of damage everyone loses 60% HP and then there’s no damage for 10-20 seconds) but this boss breaks that rule and that’s why people get caught off guard and fall behind.

Also people suck in general not only mechanically but also attitude-wise, I’ve had people removing the markers over their head because “it annoys me” which makes it difficult to see what’s going on.

That doesn’t dispel it.

Doesn’t dispel it unless you’re a healer.

Most mages I’ve seen use their defensive CDs are running the damage reduction talent so they can continue casting while reducing the damage taken by 70%.

Why would a warlock use the imp?

No.

The what now?

That doesn’t dispel it.

It doesn’t even exist any more.