They do more than that, leave the raid team, they had a roster of creators dedicated to the game.
The dungeon tools is the standard, addons, auras, and even people like dratnos or esfand were working for them making guides and such.
It’s a lot of things surrounding the game and while none of this is mandatory or really necessary, the game evolved around it and people use them everyday.
I mean, finalbossTV is also under a s***storm, and they were making the guides for every raid on wowhead, again, the standard for this thing considering how bad is the ingame encounter journal.
but there is nothing stopping them from doing that still, yes they probably wont get payed for the moment, but if they realy want to continue, they do find other places to do that, specialy if they had no idea on what was happening in method
dont put adult in quotation marks. he is an adult. he is mentally fit enough to run a stream, be part of a team, play a game on a competitive level. as far as i can see he can take care of himself too. its not like he is mentally challenged.
i never said such a thing thats just you assuming. plus i wouldnt label what she did as “retarded”.
it is not uncommon for people who fell victim to e.g. sexual/abuse to take years to come forward with it. you can read through the thread, there are plenty of reasons given im not going to repeat all of them.
its not conspicious at all. assuming its true what she says, it is very likely she wasnt the only one. so if every girl felt the same about it on her own, its easier to bring this on the table as a group.
i really love how you re trying to blame the victim so bad.
she was FOURTEEN. a CHILD. saying its spurned revenge material is perverse.
so have you never done anything remotely stupid as a child? children are naive and do stupid things, thats why they re children. they do not think like adults do.
look.
im not saying that what she “did” was right. the whole idolising streamer thing is another issue on its own. in my opinion “public” figures or streamers shouldnt have access to their audience like that in private because predatory stuff like this can happen. but she was a child. of course she cant fathom all the consequences of her actions. and its not like she tried to deceive him or something. she was being upfront about her age. he should have turned around right there and then when knowing her age, exiting the conversation and never look back. but guess what, he didnt.
heck, he shouldnt even look for females from his stream/discord to have questionable conversations with at all whatsoever. thats higly unprofessional.
Method is made from its players, not from the people running the organization. If the players go, Method is done. And the players have been going at a breakneck pace. I don’t see Method recovering from this. Their brand simply isn’t strong enough. They’re not the Coca-Cola of gaming (look up Coca-Cola murdering workers for unionizing, yeah, they survived that one).
I never excused his behaviour, but i am seriously questioning her motives.
You can say all you want, this whole deal just reeks of revenge motives and not because they really felt abused.
I’m questioning her motives, not blaming her entirely except for the fact it took way too long to come out.
Like children can’t do anything wrong or not?
In any case proper authorities should investigate and i am wondering what it would yield.
Don’t you find it a bit odd that there were screenshots presented that are three years old?
With that kind of evidence she already could’ve gone to any authorities and report his misbehaviour?
I am shocked at how easily you’re willing to forgive said victim because of her so called youthful innocence.
Like there aren’t any children around that crave revenge or just want to destroy a person’s reputation when they don’t get what they want or think they deserve to get?
but you are trying to excuse his behavior though by bringing up the mental health stuff and calling him an “adult” as if he wasnt one.
yes, sure, but you could also say lets blame all the male victims because they re too scared of the label society would put on them and the fear of not being taken seriously.
it doesnt suddenly nullify what happened to them just because they are too scared to come forward with it or that it takes a few years. doesnt excuse the perpetrator either.
sure they do, thats part of being a child. thats why you have ADULTS to take care of them and prevent them from doing stupid things. thats why children arent allowed to purchase alcohol/drugs, have a drivers license and marry, just to name a few. children have by default less rights and responsibilities than adults as they are not far enough mentally to decide for themselves.
im sorry but thats just a sick and twisted opinion to have. so i ll leave it at that, im done.
How many adults have been tried in court and have been found mentally unstable and therefore had reduced sentence or have been put in special care just because?
That’s a social stigma and these have very deep roots.
What defines an actual adult?
Age can’t be it because i’ve seen a lot of adults that still act like they’re in their 20’s?
Responsible behaviour is something you either have or not, some people have a good moral compass, some can be learned what’s right or wrong and some just won’t ever learn.
Ohhhh please, get off your moral high horse.
You’re just hell bent on throwing the guy on the burning staple?!
Like i said before, let the authorities investigate and let’s see how this whole story unravels if they’d ever make it publicly available.
Maybe the person you’re trying to defend isn’t so innocent as you think?
i do not know, i dont have any statistics on hand for that. it varies from country to country i suppose.
however, they are still tried and not just aquitted. if found guilty but cant be sentenced due to mental instability or whatnot they still have intensive care or are locked in a psychiatric ward or at very least have mandatory therapy or anything like that awaiting after the trial.
its not like they get a free pass just because of their issues.
BINGO! here we go, you got it. now you know why she had troubles coming foward with it. congratulations.
you re doing it again.
exactly. and whether someone is responsible or not or has a moral compass or not is irrelevant. actions have consequences. period.
its funny you accuse me of the very thing you re doing. you re hell bent of her lying and him being innocent. he has zero evidence and she has at least somewhat to show (whether its true or not is up for debate still). yet you are convinced that her case is fishy and dont even give a second thought about him being guilty. its PRETTY telling you re quite biased as you apparently also make a difference between male and female victims. you got nothing “but a feeling it might not be true”.
you make it sound like you re living in some sort of utopia. sure it would have been better for everyone if she/they went to the police right after it happened but YET AGAIN you are ignoring the fact that she was only 14 and probably just scared. yes, in a perfect world she would have gone to the police straight away but we do not live in a perfect world, reality doesnt work like that. doesnt invalidate anything that happened though.
but do you know what would have also been pretty neat? him not going that far in the first place!
I was suicidal between 13-15 because i got permanently crippled at 12 and i’m 27 now. Anxiety and Depression is very real at a young age especially in modern times.
Neither should she if it’s proven she’s the one that kept it going?
Love the condescending / patronization, how does that feel being so full of yourself, i bet you don’t need a lot to eat right?
Then why does his actions have and hers do not?
Not exactly, i think it should be looked into the matter and see if it was the point or not?
What i said first time actually:
So once again:
He should be tried for what happened, because what went down is by all means not ok.
But in the same breath i’d want to know a good and plausible reason why she came out just now and why keep all that evidence for three years and do nothing?
Did i actually say i believe he was innocent?
To my recollection i think i said i question her motives and not his guilt?
doesnt matter, if he was an adult and she a child at that point, he was the one who should have stopped it instantly when he realiced she was only 14, you se you can argue she continued it, but it was he should have stopped it, no question about it, and no court or judge would ever care about what she did or not, becuse she was a minor, it was the adults responsibilitly to stop or not even start it if that was the case.
so it doesnt matter if she started it at all, he was at fault.
This whole metoo movement showed the many and complicated reasons why women spend years or even decades not coming out with this stuff.
Because they get vilified, their character and their morals questioned. They get threatened and ostracised, their careers can be ruined.
And then you get some teenage edgelord questioning on the interweb “y didn’t they speak up sooner forehead!?”
I’ve stayed relatively out of this, apart from providing a link earlier in this thread.
My two penneth (or maybe 10 penneth) is…
If what is alleged has happened it is AWFUL
If people have sat on this knowledge and not dealt with it… it is AWFUL
But… Social Media and Forums should not ever be Judge, Jury and Executioner… If these claims are indeed as they appear to be (and I stress the word appear to be, as they are one person’s word over another) then I hope proper criminal charges are imposed and taken to the maximum letter of the law that they can.
I will never stand by and watch innocent people be abused, harassed or in any other way co-erced… BUT… trial by pitchfork is not the way. Let the legal entities handle this, not our own emotions. Our emotions are driven by what we read and hear in this case, not what we KNOW. The authorites should be involved and should deal with it, we should not. We are not the law. But if all I have read is true, I hope the law comes down on them with everything it has.
The whole #metoo movement started three years ago, quite a good time to come out then.
It has also been abused by a lot of people to get what they want when they trick people and then start the victim role to ruin that persons reputation or career.
But before it gets taken out of context again, like previous times.
This is not directed at the current situation but more as a reaction on Dejarous’s post in general.
Also, teenage edgelord?
Who are you talking to?
What makes you think you got the right to talk down to a person like that?
Also tone down on your memespeak this isn’t 9gag or something?
That’s not for me to decide, but it is quite interesting to know if it would ever lead to any form of conviction.
Truth be told, it should be looked into quite intensively because this is the third time now or so that he got into this kind of mess?
But i guess people are now trying to crucify me instead because i ask questions?
I must admit, i love all the white knighting and frustrations and people trying to ridicule me, rambling on and on from their moral horses.
