Mistweaver Nian SPOILERS (I guess?)

Both. I mean, using your logic, you were kind of vindicating what they did to the Draenei.

What? How does any of that have to do with this?:

Given Lordaeron belongs to the Forsaken, and using your same logic…then they are entitled to massacre or, how was it? Oh yeah, treat anyone else as “Fair game”.

Why? I didn’t say they want to claim Arathi.

Sharp inhale

No space to send appreciation to both factions? No? Oh, okay.

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If someone is tagged as “massacred” its a way of showing that simply labelling him as “dead” isn’t enough to encapsulate the gravity of the situation.

Oh really? Have you actually read the first post i made in this topic?

Funny you say this in a thread that blows out of proportion the death of a single medic as something that somehow reflects on how “evul” the Horde currently is.

Not to take my word, but take in the fact that Blizzard added specific flavour text to showcase how gruesome their deaths were.

I prefer using “no, u” myself.

I do appreciate your faction, this is just about proper debating.

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Thank you captain Obvious. It still doesn’t make your claim true.

No, but I have actually read a lot of your posts, some in debates with me, some with others. To pick a convenient example, the Brennadam abomination was cool to you, but you are now clamoring for the rights of grunts.

This thread was made by Halasibel with a single question: “Why does Blizzard go out of their way to portray the Horde as evil?” If that’s not a Horde sympathetic definition, I don’t know what it is.

Theramore? Cool. Darnassus? Cool. Gilneas? Cool.

Some random grunts died armed in combat on foreign soil post-Genocide? Not cool, Alliance, no!

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The fact that Eitrigg whines about the camps every time I enter Stromgarde Warfront?

There are still many Lordaeron refugees in Stormwind. And some from Hillsbrad too, probably. And their claim is much better for they have a pulse and degenerate corpses belong 6 feet under.

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Hmm…what? You have literal NPCs tagged as such:

Aaah…ad-hominem. Good to know.

Why do you think im arguing from some Popularity contest kind of standpoint? I don’t give a f*ck about that.

You said that i’m blowing out of proportion the deaths/massacre of some Horde grunts. The thread premise was about how the death of a single medic turned into: Blizzard going out their way to make the Horde feel evil.

Linking once again sources which prove nothing. I do not dispute your claim of “massacred” I dispute your definition of massacred.

Calling you out on crap is ad-hominem? Good to know.

Ok?

You want me to get Halasibel here to tell you what the thread premise was? Because you apparently know what his thread and OP is about better then him.

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Dear god. You are dense.

It’s funny how Halasibel understood my post and claim in one fell click and it still takes you a hundred or so to do so. And it still won’t help you to understand.

Moving onto more relevant discussions…

If someone doesn’t understand sarcasm, it is the fault only of the one who made the bad joke. Deal with it. Perhaps next time you can keep your overused and bad jokes for yourself. We are here to discuss lore.

Zarao needs a dictionary again :joy::wink:

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Where did i define it?.

Just FYI, definition of Massacre, from Wikipedia:

A massacre is a killing, typically of [multiple victims], considered [morally unacceptable], especially when perpetrated by a group of [political actors] against defenseless victims. The word is a loan of a French term for “butchery” or “carnage”.

No…admitting that you didn’t read the argument made and are just targeting the poster by referencing some past argument, is by definition an Ad hominem fallacy in any debate.

Again, Wikipedia definition:
Ad hominem, short for argumentum ad hominem , is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

Unlike you, instead of avoiding answering the topic at hand and opting to go in some walk-around regarding the poster, i did read what was being said. And Halasibel even wrote a TLDR:

Which, referred to the death of a single medic, seems to me just as “blowing over the top” as me pointing out the explicit way they showcased how gruesome the deaths of those orcs was.

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This is literally de ja vu. You’re linking dictionary definitions again lmao.

The one day I decide to return to the forums and an argument starts of definitions fml

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Discuss lore?

In a few number of posts, you have stated complete ignorance to the points I was trying to make, placed your own interpretation, stereotyped me to something you really want and not answered anything of my statements.

What part of your previous posts was discussing lore, than to just point fingers at the entire Horde playerbase and place them in a type and batter them for being in that faction?

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Why, thank you, I bet the orcs were killed for being socialists. No mate, you are dishonest because you are accenting the “Torture, maiming, butchery” parts of the massacre, while neglecting the fact that the word has been liberally used to define wide-scale slaughters which fully lacked these things.

Further more, those orcs had axes next to them. I don’t think that’s defenseless.

I did read the argument made, and I agreed with it under the circumstances which you portrayed. I just find it hilarious that you are gonna be the one to make it.

So, you do know what Halasibel means better then Halasibel?

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Then next time don’t waste everyone’s time with your really bad jokes that are just unnecessary (it’s not funny to say that you would be ok with murdering children, even if it’s a videogame).

I wasn’t making a joke.

You said to use Void Elves (Alleria and Umbric) to place in a situation. And I answered. If anything, it’s you who has been wasting my time trying to moralize something pointless.

And Arctur? You are not everyone.

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No, i’m not. Where did i say so?

Why are you grabbing hold of stuff like political affiliaton, being armed or not, etc? The sentence literally starts with a huge “typically”.

And here Blizzard judged appropriate tag it as such.

You said you hadn’t read it.

No, i say that when i write the exact same thing as Halasibel wrote in his TLDR, then i certainly must have a grip on whats being said.

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You answered by saying “Go for it, that’s war”. That is not funny, killing children just because “It’s war” is stupid and disgusting.

Does anyone honestly care? Seems pretty trivial given our recent track record. This should be EXPECTED now.

The Horde player is already complicit in genocide so what´s a couple more non combatants at this point. I´d perhaps feel bad if it all happened in a vacuum but that sentiment was snuffed out sometime between the Burning of Teldrassil and the destruction of Brennadam and the children I saw weeping over their dead parents there.

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Here?

Because you literally quoted a definition containing the word “Political actors” and “defenseless” ? I mean, how hard is it to to comprehend this?

I beg your pardons?

I find your “grip” on anything very debatable.

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