That was the request, so doing it manually should give you a good insight into how awful this will be if you actually try it.
Personally I wouldn’t touch an auto queue with a bargepole. I even use an addon so I can see what classes people are in the groups I’m applying to. It also shows me the io average but I don’t care about that as much.
Also low keys generally appreciate having some higher rio, better geared players in them to essentially boost. I frequently help friends gear their alts this way too.
You want to take these twenty something people from that throwaway thread at the backyard of general forums – people who spend their daily work hours in gaming threads – and base the future of WoW on their opinions alone?.. Yeah, man, I’m glad you’re not the one who’s making any decisions there.
But this is not correct. Because there’s no reason to assume that “create an actual queue system with MMR” from OP’s post should be or was equal to “just tape some random and mindless matchmaking to the current system and shove it into the sea of pugging”. Thus, “just do it manually yourself lol” isn’t equal to how this RMM M+ should be working if it is to be implemented. Not arguing in good faith there, Puny.
I am happy for this to be added to the game as long as its understood that, like ordinary pug groups, if you use it you take the risk of getting a crappy group.
I cannot imagine that i would ever want to use it but i understand some people might. I just dont want people to start moaning that blizz added them to a group that failed and that its a problem with the game because we all know that would happen.
You are in that bunch too… deciding the future of a game in working hours. You know what they say right? Every time you point at someone with a finger, there are 3 fingers pointing back at you…
OK. Look, DPS are in the quew because there are not enough healers tanks. Simple as that. So if you want to change something, its making healing/tanking more appealing. And intant quews for DDs (somehow) is not going to fix that.
What will happen is that now you wait 1h in LFR, and with an MMR system you want 1h for the computer to do its thing. So your back here complaining. Like the PvP guys mind you…
And if you can claim that some MMR system and a computer can do it better, then please. Iluminate us. Show us.
But not here. Go to the PvP posts. Maybe over there you can fix the mess SS MMR is in now.
Once you fixed that, then come back. Il listen more seriously.
Regular mythic would be fine in q. Heroics have been queued since wrath but nowadays there’s little to no point running heroic dungeons. You can clear mythics in pretty basic gear and be in them pretty quick after hitting 70.
In SL they complained that they waited too long in LFR. Wanted a Solo Quew with out adresssign healer shortage.
They implemented a SS with MMR. People STILL wait 50 min for a game. Because they STILL dont adress healer shortage. People came back to the forums to complain.
And NOW pvpers are suggesting arenas with no healers in Solo with some sort of leech buff or something to make quews shorter. STILL not adressing healer shortage.
What is the lesson to learn here? Adress healer shortage. DONE. No need to do anything fancy.
The same thing would happen to keys. Even if you add a rating req for them, that’s basically what happened in WoD when proving grounds: silver was a requirement for random HC:
People cried they’re being brickwalled from content and blizz had to remove it, even though HC pugging never felt better.
The truth is automated MM is an awesome system with huge potential but the community’s entitlement ruins any content it’s attached to.
Yeah, if that was forced on us, I would quit keys, which would lead to me quitting WoW altogether because keys are the main reason I play. (Since I fall into the ‘spends real money on tokens’ target demographic, you can be fairly confident that they won’t shoot themselves in the foot by doing that.)
They also don’t take into account that M+ has affixes, and those affixes affect how keen tanks and healers are to do keys. I would think they’d be even less likely to want to play roulette with a random comp.
I presume PvP is the same as PvE and the dps role is the one that is the overpopulated. How you get more people to play the other roles, idk. As a class who can do all three roles, there is no way I’d tank or heal in PvE. It’s just not something I enjoy. This is my hobby, I’m not going to suffer in it
yeah we need queue. if other competitive games can do it so can wow. they can eliminate boosted people with mmr. this apply to 5 dungeons and wait for half hour just to get accepted a key thing is not okay no matter what people here say sorry
Sure. Do give us random queues for m+. But then I ask to also get new game mode m++ with better rewards or something without queues. Because moment they open m+ to queues, they will also nerf and and make m+ trivial.
Like what? DoTa? Its a completly different genre. Not even comparable.
And why is that? The LFR tool, or dungeon design that makes noboy want to heal dungeons?
Why is it that nobody here has the 2 neurons needed to see the actual problem, and propose actual solutions to address it.
YOU wait 1h because there are 10 DPS for every 1 healer out there. And with an automated quew, there will STILL be 10 DPS for every 1 healer out there.
No matter who does the picking, you will still wait 1h.
So… solution? Make it 3 DPS for every 1 healer. Therefore: Quews are instant.
FIXED.
So now that you know what the REAL problem is: Tell me. What sort of MMR system will encourage MORE healers to quew?
How will you make a computer convince Punyelf:
To heal… Like a gun will pop of his screen or something?
