Till you watch Ellesmere’s stream +25 NW tyrannical, they coming up to the boss with more than 8 minutes left on the timer. Them talking about how the freak they are going to kill this. They wait for more than a minute to get every CD back and go for it. With great coordination of who is popping CD’s on the shield, ~20% is the furthest they got. The clear conclusion in the group was that the boss is not doable. On higher keys Nalthor tyrannical is stupidly hard. Probably the hardest boss of the dungeon.
There are many theories to justify or not justify whether it is fair or not for the fight to reset or not.
However, the OP is right I his frustration and it seems to me that the best solution would be for the boss to stop using Dark Exile when there is only one player left. That would allow soloing of the boss in the future and in the meantime preserve the (small) chance of soloing the boss in a desperate attempt if the rest of the party is dead. And I don’t see any downside to this .
25 is stretching it however by a large margin as thats the point where the scaling reaches a point where in theory you cant kill a boss anymore (as is intended, or well, the natural outcome of the system). He is right however that there isnt much difference on the boss if comparing a 10 to 12 or a 14 for instance.
That will actually be a pain when we get round to solo farming for the mount, I hadn’t even thought of that.
We have run ourselves also during our road that this boss is the challenger of the dungeon. Often we had a 5+ minute fight that ended up not doable. Also the +10 or +14 numbers do not say that much when you go in with different ilvl’s.
Yes and no. I mean if i go with full 226 into a 10 or a 14 there would be literally no difference. With 210 it would take a tad longer but nothing that would cause me to scratch my head. With 190 in a 14 would be different compared to lets say a 10. And they are technically going into a 25 with ilvl that is way lower than “intended”. At 25 combined with Tyrannical it just becomes impossible number wise (or close to. No idea if an untimed 25 tyra exists) and thats the main issue.
Whether Nalthor is harder than the other bosses comes down to the person ontop of that. For instance i have them relatively close to one another in terms of difficulty aside from the third (whom i cant take serious) but thats my personal PoV. That doesnt mean that others would be wrong by deeming Nalthor the hardest boss of the instance by quite a bit. Im just not a huge fan of the level 25 comparison given other dungeons “suffer” from that as well during Tyrannical.
Well, we runned some time ago on a wall on it on +16 tyrannical (would now not be a problem anymore). But i responded on this message;
And this is 100% not true. It gets stupidly hard on a higher key where you have to coordinate cooldowns to pop the shield.
Depends what he means with higher keys. For some a 7 is already “sky high”. If he means like all keys ad infinitum then yes hes wrong.
Ok. I expect someone indeed not to talk about how easy something is by talking about +7’s. You are right.
i am not even talking about +7s 
Ye but there is a different in +7 and 25 
i will sound like a TOXIC kid man …but how can you die on +7 and then come to this forum any cry about bad design when clearly you just failed mechanics so 4 people in your group died it’s not blizzard fault that 4 players don’t understand what needs to be done
it’s their fault not to look into dungeon journal or watch video on youtube how to do it properly.
Why do you think people are toxic in +15 when someone fail simple mechanics?
it’s because 15 is not a place for learning how to PLAY a GAME
i don’t understand half of this threads created by people talking about bad design
and then you look at their profile and they didn’t even finish 1 15 key
I only responded on someone who specifically said “higher keys” 
Says the one who pays for boosts:
300 score, everyone else at least 1600 score above you.
Don’t bother responding, you’re clearly boosted.
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Can you not be rude to people one single time?
Nothing rude about calling people out.
You edited your reply, you clearly said he got a boost on all +15 when by the rio was just that one.
Oh yeah.
2 dps only and timed on +15? Unlikely to be pugs as well.
Face it, he’s paid for boosts.
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You talk to much too when you didn’t done a +15 either, at less on that chat.
Just let him alone, you looks like some guys who stalk someone profile 24/7
I haven’t done a +15 because I don’t care to. The maximum reward is at +14.
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He didn’t care either, he did all +15 apart from the two worst dungeons to time where he bought a boost.