"Nerfed" btw

Thanks for reminding me, will be interesting to see which will be the most played spec this time around :+1:

I agree completely

we dont need to talk about this

let awc picks speak for themselves

yeah my arcanosphere is hitting 120k with 4-5 dmg mod, insane nerf this, 5 second cast to hit 120 too op

go back to battlegrounds threads

thank you

I wonder what Venruki has to say about Frost Mage? Probably nothing, right? :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

He talked about frost mage at a couple of occasions in the last days

probably F tier in his headcanon

doesn’t matter whether i’ve played any games anyone with a brain can see sub is out of control so dont give me that excuse they are basicly immortal at this point it needs tuning more than ww.

Factual statistics show that if Sub is out of control, then WW is even more out of control :slight_smile:

im talking about good rogues not below 2k trash rogues, what a tournament player can do with rogue right now is retarded.

People are not saying sub isnt too strong, but neglecting WW due to it is just confusing.
Why would you neglect one spec because of another? Usually always a reason why people say that.

So am I. Above 2400 in 3v3 in NA there are twice as many WW’s than Sub Rogues. In EU there are also more WW Monks than Sub Rogues above 2400. At least have the facts to back up your agenda.

go watch pikaboo videos 28-1 win/lose ratio at that awc 1 month ago you’ll see what i mean.

You mean at the time before WW received massive defensive buffs which elevated them to the status of best melee in the game?

sry bro beyond this i dont need facts Sub been OP for 20 years but people apparently have accepted it i’ll go now whatever maybe i should roll sub its a better ww in every way anyway the playstyle is very similar.

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You go and enjoy living in your delusional world refuting facts that prove your narrative wrong. Must be nice :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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i would argue you’re just ignorant. anyone with 2 brain cells know rogues kit is insanely strong compared to other specs And makes a fool out of most classes with the control it has.

Said the person that doesn’t even play arenas and is looking at factual statistics but still arguing something contrary to what those facts show? I’M the ignorant one? Really?

Nobody argued otherwise. WW is currently a better performer than Sub Rogue. Factually. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that.

getting gud at rogue takes years, wws rotation is extremely easy to get into for fotm rerolls and you will do awesome dmg instantly. it would explain your representation obsession.

Do you have any experience to back this up or are you just regurgitating what you hear in echo chambers?

If Sub Rogue is soooo insane, it is irrelevant if it ‘takes years to get good’. WW is stronger and better performing than Sub. Factually. Get it into your brain and cope.