New 6-month mount and no new content

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

@Ishayo-frostmane

@Punyelf-draenor

You can just unsub and play something else when there is a content drought. There is no reason to pay if you don’t find it fun to play.

I KNOW

I’m not saying it because I can’t physically leave. I’m posting it for the same reason people post other negative things on the forums, which is a reason I know you know, so quit trying to agitate me.

@Punyelf-draenor

As for the Microsoft store stuff, we currently enjoy a system where you can grind gold in game and buy store stuff, pay for services, or even your sub itself. So like I said, I don’t think WoW is suitable to the game pass.

Very few people actually do this. The gold that people “grind” is just getting paid to do boosts, which then of course gets turned around in that boostees buy the tokens and so carries on the circle of life.

I’m not trying to agitate you, I’m not sure why the concept of taking breaks would trigger anyone.

I actually know quite a lot of people who don’t pay for their sub with real money and buy store items and services in the same way. I’m not trying to imply the majority don’t just pay a subscription with IRL money though. I think the bulk just pay the sub because it’s easier than having to worry about grinding gold in game.

Getting someone else to pay your sub nets Blizz more money so it’s a win win situation for them.

[Bregastor-nemesis]

@Deoxic-doomhammer

I have 2 months left on my sub and I have no intention in renewing until I see something worth my time.

1 month left more or less, and I got the mount, maybe you guys should stop canceling the sub right away for no reason, wait last few days/week, and cancel it if there is no content close to release.

[Estetická-drakthul]

It’s good value. And cheap. I got a 6 month sub, some stuff in store & TBC Deluxe recently. It’s just money in the end. For a 6 month sub alone you get to play retail, classic and TBC and that’s a lot of content. Korthia is ok… retail could use new content that’s for sure.

[Mortil-daggerspine]

Mount is the content. Same as walking to the dungeon and spamming chat.

[Ishayo-frostmane]

@Estetická-drakthul

It’s good value. And cheap. I got a 6 month sub, some stuff in store & TBC Deluxe recently. It’s just money in the end. For a 6 month sub alone you get to play retail, classic and TBC and that’s a lot of content. Korthia is ok… retail could use new content that’s for sure.

Doesn’t sound like good value to me, it sounds like you’ve got a full bank account and don’t care, which is fine. I’m not short on cash myself, either, but all the same the value proposition is much, much lower than what Microsoft provides. Like it’s not even on the same planet. Yes, WoW has a lot of content, but most of it is very old and in various stages of disrepair. GamePass is mostly new and modern games and there’s hundreds of them each with their own multiplayer and single player campaigns. Thousands of hours of gaming easily.

Oh, and GamePass comes with an MMORPG: Elder Scrolls Online.

[Estetická-drakthul]

Yeah. So basically your point you are trying to make here is that it’s a bad value because you can sub to Game Pass to play trash AAA games. Most of the titles that got released in recent years were hardly enjoyable or released in alpha state full of bugs missing features with false marketing on top. If I want to play MMORPG I can choose from WoW, ESO, LOTRO, FF etc… now what do these other competitors have in common? Unstable, lagged out servers for EU players. Blizzard might not deliver content in such a quantity and quality I’d like but their servers are rock solid 20ms experience. Considering that my other hobbies eat 1-4k a month a pop it’s pocket change we are talking about here.

[Daestra-turalyon]

33 pence per day is good value for me tbh i do not drink or smoke or do drugs and people spend more on a Friday and Saturday night in the pub in one weekend then i do in a year on WoW.

[Ishayo-frostmane]

Well I mean… ESO is in GamePass. So yeah.

While it’s true that there’s a lot of AAA trash out there there’s also some really good AAA. And there’s a lot of non-AAA games in there, too.

Microsoft Flight Simulator, Outer Worlds, Wolfenstein 1 & 2 (even if the 2nd one has an awful forced political message that is literally taken from the textbook of the enemy), Rainbow Six Siege, Morrowind, Skyrim, ESO, The Forgotten City, Tetris Effect, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen order, Prey, Pillars of Eterni9ty, Ori and the Blind Forest, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Mirror’s Edge (not Catalyst, yuck), Minecraft, Middle-earth: Shadow of War, Limbo, Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Halo Infinite, Hades, Forza Horizon 4 and 5, the whole DOOM series, Dragon Age: Origins, the Dishonored series, Crysis 1-3, Cities: Skylines,

And these are just the games I know I like. Tere’s a lot more.

Now I’m not suggesting that WoW needs to compete directly with this. It’s a completely different beast and as you point out many of us can afford both.

However, it really calls into question the content release cadence on WoW. It’s kindda pathetic, really. Microsoft are adding 5 new games every month and Blizzard can’t even manage a patch in over half a year.

[Dhobban-ragnaros]

@Ishayo-frostmane

€198 in sub money I mentioned earlier got you 9.1, which is Korthia and the shadow phase in The Maw, Tazavesh, and Sanctum of Domination. And that mount.

It’s a bloody rip-off.

Not sure how months worth of content is a rip-off when one single night out can be a third of that cost…

[Estetická-drakthul]

Yeah it’s true. I have played all of the games or own them already. Some of it I had to refund… no fun to be had. Skyrim is great. The cadence sucks honestly. I mean 1-2 content patches since release? .

[Estetická-drakthul]

A night out is easily ranging from 150-200€ for me here… luckily I don’t frequent such places often.

[Ishayo-frostmane]

@Dhobban-ragnaros

Not sure how months worth of content is a rip-off when one single night out can be a third of that cost…

I guess it can cost that much here if you have 1 person pay for 5 people, but really though, WoW is a video game and it should be compared to video games.

@Estetická-drakthul

Yeah it’s true. I have played all of the games or own them already. Some of it I had to refund… no fun to be had. Skyrim is great. The cadence sucks honestly. I mean 1-2 content patches since release? .

Finally we got to the heart of it.

[Dhobban-ragnaros]

@Ishayo-frostmane

I guess it can cost that much here if you have 1 person pay for 5 people

If I go out to drink and eat with my friends it’s easily 200€.

@Ishayo-frostmane

WoW is a video game and it should be compared to video games.

Could also say WoW is a hobby and should be compared to other hobbies. Could compare it to MTG, warhammer etc. and all of a sudden WoW is super cheap.

[Ishayo-frostmane]

@Dhobban-ragnaros

If I go out to drink and eat with my friends it’s easily 200€.

I don’t know how you’re doing that but you’re getting ripped off - either that or it’s like a 2 star Michelin restaurant, or you’re just drunk af and buying anything at any price.

@Dhobban-ragnaros

Could also say WoW is a hobby and should be compared to other hobbies. Could compare it to MTG, warhammer etc. and all of a sudden WoW is super cheap.

It’s true that it’s less expensive than those things but those things actually get content. The reason why you’re paying a lot is you’re paying for something, whereas with WoW right now you’re just paying and getting nothing more than access. The content release cadence is so slow it borders on insanity. I swear to you Legion had more content ever 3 months than Shadowlands does every year.