New class tunings! Updated

Music for my ears

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Jungle was kinda dead after patch so it’s fair enough
Even if I think surv will still do better

:+1: Yes it should have been

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I agree with most of the changes, but I’m scared of these huge meta changes. A smaller patch where Full Moon was just nerfed would be a lot better. When boomkins get nerfed automatically classes like mage will get stronger. When you nerf the 2 strongest casters for example you’ll see other casters played more. I think doing so many changes at once will just end in new FOM classes. I want smaller updates, but more often, but well it’s not my call, let’s just hope the new meta ain’t gonna be again 2 overbuffed classes.

Surprised to not seeing outlaw and frost dk buffs.

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Ah, nice, I’m getting buffed.

Can I trust my eyes? Do they really buff mages? WHY would anybody do something so dumb?

Cries in frost dk. Unholy is in a solid spot so it is what it is I guess. They buffed phys dmg dealing specs tho, probably will make dk life a bit harder.

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Hunter buffs? I honestly didnt see that coming. Love it. Yall be dead before you even reach me.

Fire buffs are worrying true but Frost is actually a nerf in RMP as they buff Frostbolt and Nerf Ray.

Warrior gets buffs though.

Magic is worse than melee, with spellwarden removed and ams absorbing magic dmg like a wet blanket absorbing water.

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But Boomy, Shadow and Aug were literally in tier of their own. Moonkin nerfs won’t kill the spec - just bring it back to the line with others. Shadow’s Mind Trauma was extremely opressive as I predicted (and some others didn’t believe but play this build themselves) and Mind Spike being other school than Shadow worked miracles with Mind Trauma. Literally if you kept 3 stacks on both dpses you could just tank them and barely care about their damage.
Aug nerfs are good to the game. This spec was overtuned in 3v3 arena. I already expected it to be this way - dampening playstyle because he buffs 1 guy and also provides a lot of survivability.
This will help Warlocks, Elementals and Mages to get back in Meta.

Survi also got buffed so no doubt.

I’d say Warlock Demo and Destru are A tier. Affli is B tier. It’s just Aug, SP, Boomy and DK were some god tier 1 above other S. These changes might help Warlocks to get back in the meta. Especially in 3s.

Imo they should bring back presences for DK and then tune Unh damage a bit down in PvP. It has overtuned damage but still dies easily. It will also help Frost because DKs issue is survivability. Currently I prefer to go DK over Warrior, Havoc and Ret as a caster.

Dk only does overtuned damage if the pepegas against dk don’t focus him down, focus down a dk with damage and watch the dk spend all his resources into deathstrikes and deal the lowest damage.

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Well dots are still pumping and I believe that on the meter you might still end up being first. Also it’s hard to go on DK as 2 casters during Abom limb as you feel like he is playing yoyo with you. In downtime I agree - go on DK and it’s not scary. I believe that both DK specs need some other defensive solution. Death Strike is not the way - either overtuned or useless.

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5% hps output buff and ascendance QoL changes, nice. :slight_smile:

Death syphon and conversion+ presences then in return nerf damage.

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I can honestly say that I will be interested to see how much flame shock dispel will deal in dmg xd

feedback - D stance is still 10% wall for a 15% drawback, Impossible to touch a mage infinite mobility slows roots knocks, Zero damage into high armor, MS + execute doing zero damage as well.

blizzard - buffs slam for the 10th time.

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With the buffs around 80k or so without mitigation. Nothing impressive

I remember getting hit for 80k without the buffs, but I might have to look into it myself after the release… Since I dont want to say too much without fully testing xd