The devs know what they are doing. There is a holy Purpose to everything they do. Trust in the Purpose.
Anyway I feel this is not exactly correct, his explanation was a bit convoluted in the interview but basically they said all the different AU souls of the same character will merge into one single being eventually in the Shadowlands, so the result will be a person that has experienced every single timeline and possibility.
This might take a very long time, though, possibly even an eternity as time is not inherently bound to Death, so we likely won’t ever see that. And so the Draka in Maldraxxus is still the MU one -and only her- but eventually in a very long time she will merge into a single being with all the other AU Drakas. Same for Garrosh, Kael’thas and all these other characters who died and are in the Shadowlands already.
So basically in my opinion this also confirmed that nobody will come back from the Shadowlands to Azeroth (since Erevien speculated that Kael could return and become King of Quel’thalas again…) basically they are saying the fate of all the souls of the Shadowlands is to be redeemed (if they were evil in life) and be sent into a peaceful afterlife where they can merge with all their AU aliases and, in a very long time, became an “illuminated” being that has lived every possible experience in every possible life in every AU.
I mostly read “if you ask me stupid questions, you get stupid answers” on that particular question, but I guess that’s the beauty of poetry, everyone can find something of themselves in it…
This bit is rather annoying.
Specially given they’ve just spent an entire expansion trying to demonise those same traits and themes for said playable faction.
Regarding the rest, I’ve personally reached a point where I really can’t give them the benefit of doubt.
I feel that they are throwing at us whatever they feel is cool at any given time, and then hastily either retconning or loosely trying to weave it with their past stories in order to create something resembling a plausible storyline.
Most of said explanations seem like retcons or utter crap.
Like I said before.
They have become completely shameless.
Before that they at least tried and pretended to honor teh story and lore and tried to fit their stupid stuff in … now they just spit over all of it.
It’s like the WoD Dev team took over.
“My team believes that continuity exists to enhance a story, not to tie the hands of creators” - Sean Copeland, Historian Supervisor
aka your lore and story is dead
I speculated that souls from different timelines wrapped together into a single entity that represents their purest incarnation when people first began asking about it. I do wonder if an individual who is different enough becomes its own being rather than joining with the rest.
Well, maybe they tested water, and found out that players do not want the forsaken to be changed. Hence, a lot more warming up from Calia to the alliance side, and more hints at “true” origins of necromancy, scourge, and all of that.
Maldraxxi are “defenders of Shadowlands”. Maybe a turn of the forsaken from someone who used the horde for benefits, to accepting the horde as a new home. Do not read too much into it though. Even if Maldraxxus is the defense of Shadowlands, the things they actually do makes it look like double speak. So, who knows.
The one about souls of the forsaken - is not. Can’t say anything about the rest.
The Arbiter can turn souls into “raw” anima, so maybe eventually they all become just that. Hard to say so far.
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BfA prepatch wasn’t enough of an indicator?
Arbiter acts very strange. For example there was Night Elf hero that managed to save a lot of Night Elves during the Burning of the Teldrassil. But while saving, she was saving only those elves that she loved in normal times. She wasn’t saving others.
For that Arbiter have send her to Revendredth, place were only criminals residence. So, Arbiter thinks that its a crime to not help everyone…
Btw, strange thing is that she died during 4 war, but she is not in the mow like others. This thing was found by US player:
Time is not a construct of death. Trust in the Dev Purpose.
I still think that Arbiter was sending the souls according to how they fit the system, and the idea about crimes and all of that is just a facade.
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Probably an oversight by some intern who was tasked to write some flavour texts for Sinstones and who was not aware of the story details.
It is however concerning that these oversights can actually happen.
Sin of pride. To be a truly good person you should not save only the person you love and care for, but also strangers.
Anyway, I agree that the one of the Arbiter is probably just a facade, and she makes the decisions according to benefits she can get from every different person. Sylvanas is probably aware of this and she wants to free us all of this “corrupted” system of decisions of aterlives for the souls.
For example if I am not mistaken, I heard there is also the story of a Blood Elf Blood Knight -I don’t remember the name right now, sorry- that invented the Mana Bomb long ago under Kael’thas’ rule and then died. Since he basically invented a weapon of mass destruction, the Arbiter initially wanted to put him into the Maw for bringing so much chaos and destruction…
…but then, the Arbiter discovered that same Blood Knight also partecipated in the torture of the Naaru M’uru when Lady Liadrin and the Blood Knights siphoned the Light out of him to be able to cast the Light whenever they wanted as Paladins.
So since the Arbiter saw that Blood Knight also did a “good” thing torturing the Naaru and using his powers (because in the Shadowlands, the Light, just like the Void, are probably very much hated usually), the Arbiter decided to send him only to Revendreth like Kael’thas and not into the Maw.
So the moral lesson here from Blizzard is that an “evil” act (or morally grey like they say for Sylvanas, even for the burning of Teldrassil) can be mitigated by another morally grey act, and that basically you don’t need to be a good person at all in order to earn your redemption, because even if Revendreth is still a place of torment and suffering, you will be redeemed there so you can be forgiven and sent to another peaceful zone of the Shadowlands later (unlike the Maw).
So basically, like I bet it’s going to happen for Sylvanas or at least one of the reason for her involvement in the Shadowlands at the end of the expansion eventually, in order to be redeemed you don’t need to be a good person, but it’s okay if you do another morally grey act that benefits the Arbiter like that Blood Knight
I saw an observation related to sin stones, that those who were fighting against the Void or the Light were sent to Revendreth instead of the Maw. May or may not be a coincidence.
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I still think that Shadowlands having different realm/timeline accesses, makes more sense.
If the souls merging into one spirit could be true that would give us characters way different and unrecognisable as we know in our timeline.
As we know Garrosh in our timeline was one of the worst version he could ever be from countless variations, so logically he would be much more worthy for other covenants rather then living battery for Venthyr.
Or if the spirit of a character is already in SL and some other variation dies is he judged separately or just merges from get go?
Does the merged spirit change character in SL if drastically different?
As I see it this way of approach causes more unanswered questions then answers anything.
I think SL could be place where each individual timeline is treated differently by their carers(titans). That would solve many unessecary problems.
I think it must be different judgment. Garrosh in our world was a warrior that have started a war, and many innocents have died. While Garrosh on Draenor is a paladin, and serve the army of the Light. Thy have even a different mothers.
They must be treated in Shadowlands differently.
btw, we know that Sylvanas has a war against the Life it self. Winters Queen has a sister, and that sister annoying her. Her realm in Shadowlands have connection with Emerald Dream (realm of the Life). Mortals basically are made from the body (life), and the soul(death), union.
So, my guess is that Elune is Winters Queen sister, that rules the realm of the Life, and Sylvanas for some reason wants to kill her.
i don’t think the winter queen is elune’s sister because elune is described as a true deity the winter queen is no such thing in fact elune is implied to have existed before time it self before the light and the void collided and created the universe we play in
it’s far more likely that elune is the light lord which gives credit to velen’s mistake that she is a naaru but rather then that she created them all just as the void lords created the old gods
Yet Elune can’t be the creator of the Naaru, it has been proven she only created the lineage of Xe’ra, and O’ros is the last remaining before its destruction.
there nothing stating that she can’t have created them all the legion questline simply focus on xe’ra as she was importent we know next to nothing about the naaru other then the fact that they are all evuuuuuul yes even a’dal infact the tbc title Hand of A’dal or whatever should be renamed Pawn of A’dal the wind chimes must be puuuuurged!