I started playing right before Antorus Raid and my first character was a paladin. I’ve encountered the dungeon problems you talked about with people cursing at you for not knowing the tactics but it was always just one guy doing it not the whole group. And with both my characters i tanked.
The solution to your problem as lots of people have said already is to have thick skin. I mostly laugh at toxic players and shrug them off. Being the tank you have the upper hand. They can either explain you the fight or keep dying. And don’t be overly polite to strangers. Sure it can be nice sometimes but a lot of people see it as a weakness. It’s the harsh truth. And whenever someone curses at you for no reason or to bring you down just report them.
Maybe you tend to notice the toxic behaviors more and not giving much attention to the nice things when they happen to you. As a tank you receive help quite often at least in my experience. I had people patiently explain me all the bosses in tons of dungeons, Tomb of Sargeras and Antorus when i told them it was my first time. Sure there was that one two players in the group that cried “oh this is great noob tank and kick the f**ng noob” but i couldn’t care less about what morons say.
In my opinion you should try to see if any good-normal guild has social spots or something like that and do dungeons and raids with them just not mythic and high keys. You have to start from somewhere. There are always people in guilds that are happy to hear someone recently joined the game and they will be willing to teach you the ropes.
Everyone here started has a Noob.if everything people Say Hurts you mauve you have been over protected IRL.
Yes people can be harsh sometime, myself i can be harsh on people, the best advice i could give you is continue to Play and ignore people who don’t deserve your respect. Take hit and never look back just continue.
Nice Christmas garb btw, “And their eyes full of tinsel and fire…”
I wish you a hopeful Christmas
I wish you a brave new year
All anguish pain and sadness
Leave your heart and let your road be clear
They said there’ll be snow at Christmas
They said there’ll be peace on earth
Hallelujah noel be it heaven or hell
The Christmas you get you deserve
We should call for a truce, a period of relative peace, and harmony, on the forums at least, if nowhere else.
I agree most players are very rude, but sometimes you meet that nice person that makes it worth playing, so just ignore the rude players or stop talking to people.
A players who says hi, thank you etc is a miracle these days
I have played this game since late 2006. English is not my native language, yet I can contribute most of my learning of it to this game and its community. I have met thousands of amazing, patient people throughout the years, yet the ones who really made an impact on me throughout the years were the bad ones, as I fear is the same with your situation as well. I think that’s just part of human nature: we are so determined to make a good impression that whenever we don’t, it hits us hard, and forget about having hundreds of amazing experiences between each bad one.
On a side note: I have also played hundreds of other online games since my first days in WoW, and I can assure you that extremely few of them have a better community over-all than what this game does. Despite what I’m saying, though, I hope you find what you’re looking for elsewhere if you decide to do so!
Op i wanna just share my experience. Back in Wotlk time, when the grass was greener and the girls prettier (demicit) i played this char as belf. I totally missed the point of arcane rotation. And without recount and other addons i wasnt unaware of it.
During an halls of lightning heroic run i had the tank constantly mocked me about he poor damage i was doin. And when we arrived to Loken, he and his guildates kicked me. I was so enraged that i left my guild, and canceled my sub.
After one day i still regarded him as a f@@@@@@d but i was forced to learn my char better. After that i rejoined my guild and i was with the team which downed the lich king for the first time (we werent one of the first guild to do it but seein finally the “father is over” cinematic after you killed LK for the first time still chilled me).
So in the end: be forced to learn your class better looking for sites, videos and guildmates. Ppl is bad in wow as in the world. But there is nice ppl all around.
Honestly, I was a crap rogue too in the beginning on my undead (I came to official wow more or less by your same time, slightly later maybe) always bottom dps.
Then I joined a guild, they’ve been friendly and patiently taught me everything I needed to know, and we used to laugh a lot while we failed all together. But we got better in time.
I’m not saying this is a solution to everything, but usually it’s actually easier to live in peace with a guild rather than with pugs, usually only made by people who just want to run to the end of a dungeon as fast as they could, kicking you if you stop 2 seconds to take a dump in between 1 dungeon and another.
A good tip that I see a few here has already mentioned, OP, is to find a good guild. Having that nice, little community can actually make all the difference in this game, rather than to go about everything on your own. I don’t necessarily mean a decent, heavily populated leveling guild or anything of the sort, but maybe rather a small, tight-knit guild where most members knows each other by name, greets each other on log-in and works their way through content together.
I, for one, know that finding just such a guild made all the difference and kept me from unsubbing a long, long time ago.
I understand how you feel at some point, because it took me a looooong time to grow a skin so thick I could recover from useless remarks.
I would log from the game in days, or hide on the never ending army of new alts where it would take me a long time to reach other players again.
We can’t hide the fact the playerbase has gotten smaller, so it takes a little longer to find those people making it really worth playing the game as a multiplayer.
But (I know I will say something bad now, don’t hate me ) the game still have enough content for you to run around and solo untill you reach that one person worth playing with.
Last time I found a new awesome friend in here was by coincidence when levelling an alt in Northrend - I came across another returning noob, and we helped each other. And by that time I had been in the game again for 6 month, not finding a guild I enjoyed - like I used to.
Maybe a break can help you get into to game again, it sometimes helps to get away and try other stuff, to see how you would do a second time
@Pethany: To be frank, I am more than slightly stunned by someone running into THAT many unfriendly people. Because I do a lot of censusing and play on multiple servers (occasionally needing seven different languages in a single day) I interact to a (tiny) extent with around 36 000 to 77 000 characters on most days.
Yes, there ARE a few toxic people among those, but in my personal experience most people are NOT hostile towards new players. Considering the fact that I have characters in more than twenty different guilds spread over more than ten servers and I have seen ONE case of toxic behaviour (which the guild mistress dealt with a really swift guild kick (the offence was severe enough that officer council was skipped)) within the past three months, I would say most guilds have fairly nice people in them.
PUGs are far more hit and miss… and in my own experience, random BGs can be rather horrible, but even that is not a rule set in stone.
All in all, most newcomers should find a guild they feel comfortable in. One of my American friends tells me that I am (one of) the most introvert person(s) she has ever interacted with (and considering she meets hundreds, sometimes thousands of people in person each week due to her jobs that says a lot). Talking (or even just writing) in guild chat can be a terrifying experience for some people, but generally speaking… Your guild mates do not bite.
You raise an important issue. It would probably be a huge advantage if this game had an introduction on how to interact with the community for newcomers, one that could point them in the direction of looking for newb-friendly guilds.
Personally, I think I have improved in the sense that I rarely insult anyone unless they are being rude or insulting first. But I have to admit that if I get randomly grouped with a keyboard-turning tank that doesn’t know the instance he is tanking, I will leave immediately. I have limited time to play and lots of things I want to do, and I do not have the time for and do not find any pleasure in spending an hour in an instance that with experienced people would take 15 minutes.
Some are like me, some are (even greater) @holes that will be mean before leaving, but there are also people who would find it fun to spend time with you to help you out. You just need to find the last category of people. The needles in the haystack.
I’ve not really seen any toxicity towards people, probably because i don’t push high keys. Weirdly I do do LFR but i’m still not seeing it. Maybe I’m just lucky.
I would suggest running a DPS first to get used to the mechanics, as a Tank you should know the mechanics inside and out and be able to lead your team through. Perhaps level a “tank” class in DPS mode and switch to tank once you feel confident.
A guild is your best bet, find a guild with a social side rather than a solid “we only raid” guild so you can get your confidence up. Join Socially, get used to the members by talking to them and then try the odd dungeon etc once your settled so you can practice tanking. If you are doing well then they may ask you to try tanking a raid.
I’m in a brilliant guild but it’s on Argent Dawn, they have both social and raid members (i’m social) and, while I can’t speak for everyone, if a member needs help with something that I can help with then I do.
The first whisper I got from another player in game was “nice gems, retard”. I hadn’t made conversation with them, just came out of the blue in a dungeon group. Bizarre people play this game.
Just know it’s them with the problem. Them. People who act like that are just awful and it will negatively affect their life, unfortunately.
I was lucky in that I found a guy at work who also played wow (but at a ridiculous level, his guild was doing high-end raiding at the time) so he helped me.
As an aside, he also told me how whenever his guild were recruiting, they always check the forum posts of anyone who applied so that they avoided people who complained about the game, their class or were just unpleasant to others. I doubt his is the only guild to do this, so just know these players aren’t made welcome either.
FInally, feel free to add me to your friends list if you don’t quit. I have alts at many levels; healers, tanks and DPS and I’m pretty terrible so we can learn together.
I’ll share my own story of how I started. Not to dispute the OP’s argument but to show that toxicity is something that only grows when the game allows for it to grow.
When I started playing nobody called me a noob, even though I was. Most of my groups couldn’t clear dungeons and even struggled with some outdoors quests. In the first 6 dungeons I tried to run we managed to kill some boss on 4 of them and only cleared one. We usually attributed it to maybe doing it wrong or maybe the dungeons being too hard and went our merry ways.
When I later joined a guild, some people knew more about the game there. When I asked how something worked I wasn’t called a noob (even though I was). I was told how it worked and/or where to go to read more. Sometimes I was told “I don’t know” and started searching myself. Sometimes asked the people I played with before, sometimes they asked their guilds for me. After all that, I was still a noob but nobody called me that.
13 years later, I’m still a noob in some aspects of the game. Less so in others. I rarely get called anything except by friends in jest. I made an effort to help people answer their questions in game when I still played. Now I only do it on forum, at least as much as time allows.
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) the game still have enough content for you to run around and solo untill you reach that one person worth playing with.![:slight_smile:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
